Alton-Answser to Gloria's 19161

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, "ALTON A ALTON" <lostnfoundation>

 

 

"them" his

> condition has seriously deteriorated.

 

My heart goes out to you...and as I am newly d here...I

don't have a grasp of the whole thread or your concerns...but, would

you tell me how this looks? The deterioration?

 

> He might bring great tragedy to the two woman in my house. Do you

> think I am unloving or too detached, as I remain joyful in my

concern.

 

I personally think that you are handling this in exactly the way you

need to for yourself, with utmost concern for your family also.

 

Now you will tell me he has the wrong medicine. Tell it to the

> psychiatrist.

 

He needs to know this if he does not already know...for the benefit

of the client...and usually it is a family member who will inform

them...as the client is often unable and unwilling to do so. You can

circumvent the psychiatrist by seeing a counselor...and they in turn

will request the file (with client's permission)...and then they will

be able to do much more that a psychiatrist is too busy or is not

even trained to do. Less than 10 hours of counseling training to

become a psychiatrist if memory serves me correctly.

 

 

I wanted to meet with the psychiatrist and discuss it

> with him. I even offered to pay for it, but I was turned down.

 

Who turned you down? The psychiatrist cannot/will not see you without

the client's permission.

 

 

As far as some folks labeling themselves here, I wish they would not

> do that. Its like they are stuck in their bipolar condition by

> labeling themselves.

 

There are schools of therapy, (and all of them regarding children)

that totally agree with you. Unfortunately psychiatry is not one of

them. For the most part they...interview, diagnose, prescribe. I am

not saying you are wrong...or 'they' are right, but the fact is there

is a dissorder in place, which is chemical and physiological in

nature..., usually within the family history...and without proper

medication there is very little that can be done...and the condition

will escalate possibly into other aspects...(and if it got

worse...this could indicate he went off his medication due to side

effects of the meds which he did not like: and not that it was the

wrong med.) including psychotic episodes....and the course will often

end in suicide if not treated...

 

There is no shame in the defining of the disease. The illness.

Because it is exactly that. Is it less acceptable to define a disease

of the mind than the body? There is no separation in any case.

 

 

Cant they just describe their temporary mental

> states?

 

It is not temporary if it is Bi-polar. There will be

temporary 'manic' episodes when the person will be in nirvana...and

temporary times with accute depression. Depression so debilitating

that to get out of bed is a supreme effort. And the families suffer

hugely if they do not understand. All family members are usually

recommended to seek counseling as a group.

 

My parents and other parents labeled their children as crazy, or

> whats wrong with you. It makes quite a recording, that is hard to

> erase. The same with other negative labels.

 

Yes...you are absolutely correct...and in a healthy (so to speak)

individual without this disease...we can live with these labels and

pains from the past...'make do'... But please do not project your

experience into this other person. They are different as night and

day. This would be a mistake and not help this person at all. The

same rules do not apply.

 

I hope I have not been too bold; I only wished to help. namaste.

Syena