Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 , hot_syena wrote: > , "ALTON A ALTON" <lostnfoundation> > > > "them" his > > condition has seriously deteriorated. > > My heart goes out to you...and as I am newly d here...I > don't have a grasp of the whole thread or your concerns...but, would > you tell me how this looks? The deterioration? > > > > He might bring great tragedy to the two woman in my house. Do you > > think I am unloving or too detached, as I remain joyful in my > concern. > > I personally think that you are handling this in exactly the way you > need to for yourself, with utmost concern for your family also. > > Now you will tell me he has the wrong medicine. Tell it to the > > psychiatrist. > > He needs to know this if he does not already know...for the benefit > of the client...and usually it is a family member who will inform > them...as the client is often unable and unwilling to do so. You can > circumvent the psychiatrist by seeing a counselor...and they in turn > will request the file (with client's permission)...and then they will > be able to do much more that a psychiatrist is too busy or is not > even trained to do. Less than 10 hours of counseling training to > become a psychiatrist if memory serves me correctly. > > > I wanted to meet with the psychiatrist and discuss it > > with him. I even offered to pay for it, but I was turned down. > > Who turned you down? The psychiatrist cannot/will not see you without > the client's permission. > > > As far as some folks labeling themselves here, I wish they would not > > do that. Its like they are stuck in their bipolar condition by > > labeling themselves. > > There are schools of therapy, (and all of them regarding children) > that totally agree with you. Unfortunately psychiatry is not one of > them. For the most part they...interview, diagnose, prescribe. I am > not saying you are wrong...or 'they' are right, but the fact is there > is a dissorder in place, which is chemical and physiological in > nature..., usually within the family history...and without proper > medication there is very little that can be done...and the condition > will escalate possibly into other aspects...(and if it got > worse...this could indicate he went off his medication due to side > effects of the meds which he did not like: and not that it was the > wrong med.) including psychotic episodes....and the course will often > end in suicide if not treated... > > There is no shame in the defining of the disease. The illness. > Because it is exactly that. Is it less acceptable to define a disease > of the mind than the body? There is no separation in any case. > > > Cant they just describe their temporary mental > > states? > > It is not temporary if it is Bi-polar. There will be > temporary 'manic' episodes when the person will be in nirvana...and > temporary times with accute depression. Depression so debilitating > that to get out of bed is a supreme effort. And the families suffer > hugely if they do not understand. All family members are usually > recommended to seek counseling as a group. > > My parents and other parents labeled their children as crazy, or > > whats wrong with you. It makes quite a recording, that is hard to > > erase. The same with other negative labels. > > Yes...you are absolutely correct...and in a healthy (so to speak) > individual without this disease...we can live with these labels and > pains from the past...'make do'... But please do not project your > experience into this other person. They are different as night and > day. This would be a mistake and not help this person at all. The > same rules do not apply. > > I hope I have not been too bold; I only wished to help. namaste. > Syena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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