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>> Haven`t heard a reply back yet.. hopefully am not overstaying my stay. <<

Hi Papa Om ~ if you joined the list before I left for my trip about

two months ago, I regret that perhaps I did not welcome you and say

hello. If you joined, and I forgot, I ask for understanding for my

really bad memory.

Since I returned I have been aware of some difficulties that took

place here while I was away, and an impression that you had left

because of them. (Someone in the last post said I was fortunate to

have taken a vacation...I am glad I missed the fracas.) I have seen

these difficulties before; hmmm...used to crop up all the time in the

aol New Age room. I would try my best to divert people's attention

from needlessly arguing, to no avail. Sometimes I would :::walk

around waving sweet scented smoking sage smudging stick::: ;

sometimes I would sing... :::a little bit of sunshine, a little bit

of rain, keeps this old world turning 'round again...::: ah, but I am

the only one such actions usually helped. Many of the others were

determined to continue. If I have misunderstood what may have

happened here, since I wasn't here, I apologize to all. In any case,

thank you for sharing the info and web address about the kriya yoga,

and, for whatever it is worth, I don't believe you are overstaying at

all. Shanti ~ Linda

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No problem Linda as basically am only a watcher.

Actually we all are.. realzed or not.

 

All most lists really do if I become opemly involved

with from posting.. present to me intellectual

arguments from various agendas. Will gladly give

you an example.. when someone who knows me not from

a hole in the ground assumed he was going to have

some sport "quite an assumption" of ego that I was

being seen by this individual as one to take Tony`s

place.

 

I think someone made an excellant posting today

concerning fat egos in a diet subject. :) Tis true.

 

Discussions are fine and there are many ones here

posting from love and good will including this

individual in more instances than not.

 

Also for too long.. loved all ego challenges and had

an insatiate appetite to be pac man in these sort of

games once started. But perhaps not too soon realized

was a waste of energy only going back to

from whence it came.

 

Probably should have done some snipping but would like

to continue in you post below.

 

--- nierika wrote:

> Papa Om wrote:

>

> > >> Haven`t heard a reply back yet.. hopefully am

> not overstaying my stay. <<

 

Got one today but was only a tiny one. LOL! But was

a big tho in the mention of memory. :)

> Hi Papa Om ~ if you joined the list before I left

> for my trip about two

> months ago, I regret that perhaps I did not welcome

> you and say hello. If you

> joined, and I forgot, I ask for understanding for my

> really bad memory.

 

Now is always now.. memory may only serve. Hi Linda!

glad to meetcha. :)

> Since I returned I have been aware of some

> difficulties that took place here

> while I was away, and an impression that you had

> left because of them.

> (Someone in the last post said I was fortunate to

> have taken a vacation...I

> am glad I missed the fracas.)

 

The "fracas" so to speak was only self control and

no self control in some entertainment. Where ever

there be an audience there will always be differant

plays and as many wanna be stars.

 

Several did`nt like the way I came on the list here

but I still hold to what I originally said. But

when weighed and looked at I was only making a

judgement call on a judgement call.. as only another

voice. And before any one jumps again on that.. I

can see well the disturbance it caused for others

and is not above me to offer my apology for it.. as

I do well see it resulted in setting up the stage.

> I have seen these difficulties before;

> hmmm...used to crop up all the time in the aol New

> Age room. I would try my

> best to divert people's attention from needlessly

> arguing, to no avail.

> Sometimes I would :::walk around waving sweet

> scented smoking sage smudging

> stick::: ; sometimes I would sing... :::a little bit

> of sunshine, a little

> bit of rain, keeps this old world turning 'round

> again...::: ah, but I am the

> only one such actions usually helped. Many of the

> others were determined to

> continue. If I have misunderstood what may have

> happened here, since I wasn't

> here, I apologize to all

 

All is the self. Your actions are beautiful and

will return to you wisdom as the seer. At most we

can only be givers of love and the watchers in

conciousness.

> In any case thank you sharing the info and web

> address about the kriya yoga, and, for whatever it

> is worth, I don't believe

> you are overstaying at all. Shanti ~ Linda

>

 

Will stick around unless see too many ripples or

gray noise disturbing my pond. :o

 

Namaste Dear Linda

papa swan

 

 

 

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- papa swan OM

Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:31 AM

Re: Re: Overstaying, staying over...

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Several did`nt like the way I came on the list here but I still hold

to what I originally said. Butwhen weighed and looked at I was only

making ajudgement call on a judgement call.. as only anothervoice.

And before any one jumps again on that.. Ican see well the

disturbance it caused for othersand is not above me to offer my

apology for it.. asI do well see it resulted in setting up the stage.

Dear papa swan,

Heavens, there is no need to apologize simply for having a different

opinion! I can easily see how it might look to someone new, like

coming in on the middle of a family dispute with no idea of the

history. And even those who were here all along had different

opinions. So be at ease with that, and please do stick around. The

last guy who was just popping in and not staying was Wim.:)

Keeping the peace here in no way depends on any expectation of

consensus, group think, or any ideas being beyond criticism. Rather

it is hoped that people can discuss different perspectives in a

civilized way, with good manners, and with respect for diversity of

other's religions, beliefs & etc. On the other hand, if moderators

pounced on each and every incident of a misstep, the cure might be

worse than the disease. It would be ridiculous to expect such

perfection, seeing how human communication usually goes. So we are

all doing our best here to find some balance. The best advice I ever

heard on this was to be the change you wish to see, and offer what

seems lacking to you. Golly, I think Lobster said that about 4 years

ago. Perhaps if you have seen one list, you have seen them all?

With love,

Gloria

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Dear Gloria

 

I was well aware of the family squabble and the

ingredients. I was mainly speaking in answer to

Linda`s post as I very much had the impression she

may have have been one disturbed from as she put it

"the fracus". Perhaps you did not understand..the

apology was for my setting the stage if you read the

whole email instead of snipping it.

 

Will abide by the selected limitations for who may

speak to be in the good graces of the moderators.

And apologize again to Linda and the others who

may have been disturbed by "the fracus".

 

Namaste

papa swan

 

 

 

--- Gloria Lee <glee wrote:

>

> -

> papa swan OM

>

> Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:31 AM

> Re: Re: Overstaying,

> staying over...

> snip

>

>

>

> Several did`nt like the way I came on the list here

> but I still hold to what I originally said. But

> when weighed and looked at I was only making a

> judgement call on a judgement call.. as only another

> voice. And before any one jumps again on that.. I

> can see well the disturbance it caused for others

> and is not above me to offer my apology for it.. as

> I do well see it resulted in setting up the stage.

>

>

> Dear papa swan,

>

> Heavens, there is no need to apologize simply for

> having a different opinion! I can easily see how it

> might look to someone new, like coming in on the

> middle of a family dispute with no idea of the

> history. And even those who were here all along had

> different opinions. So be at ease with that, and

> please do stick around. The last guy who was just

> popping in and not staying was Wim.:)

>

> Keeping the peace here in no way depends on any

> expectation of consensus, group think, or any ideas

> being beyond criticism. Rather it is hoped that

> people can discuss different perspectives in a

> civilized way, with good manners, and with respect

> for diversity of other's religions, beliefs & etc.

> On the other hand, if moderators pounced on each and

> every incident of a misstep, the cure might be worse

> than the disease. It would be ridiculous to expect

> such perfection, seeing how human communication

> usually goes. So we are all doing our best here to

> find some balance. The best advice I ever heard on

> this was to be the change you wish to see, and offer

> what seems lacking to you. Golly, I think Lobster

> said that about 4 years ago. Perhaps if you have

> seen one list, you have seen them all?

>

> With love,

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

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Cognosce Te Ipsum

 

 

 

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Dear papa swan,

Oh sorry, I was away when Linda came back, so I couldn't tell if you

were speaking of before or after her return. LOL Now that we are

swimming in apologies here at HS, may you float peacefully.

Glo

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papa swan OM

Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:15 PM

Re: Re: Overstaying, staying over...

Dear GloriaI was well aware of the family squabble and theingredients.

I was mainly speaking in answer toLinda`s post as I very much had the

impression shemay have have been one disturbed from as she put it

"the fracus". Perhaps you did not understand..theapology was for my

setting the stage if you read thewhole email instead of snipping

it.Will abide by the selected limitations for who mayspeak to be in

the good graces of the moderators.And apologize again to Linda and

the others whomay have been disturbed by "the fracus".Namastepapa

swan

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