Jan-Penelope -Love and compassion

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, "jb" <janb@a...> wrote:

 

Omkara writes:

> ºAn interesting discovery... although 'experience' needs no

> ºvalidation, according to vedanta, love/compassion are "sattva" and

> ºthus still remaining attributes (substratum). Yet such a

discovery

> ºwouldn't "prevent" love/compassion as an expression of " ".

 

Jan writes:

> That is why the term "history" was mentioned - unless there is a

> history of 'love and compassion', it won't be expressed...

> Sattva still is a guna - upon its dissolution, what remains

> is its history and that will determine behavior.

 

 

so when the labeling of an act as "loving and compassionate" (or the

opposite) and the emotional memory of acts such labeled go, acts and

their history and future still remain but free of value flavor.... ?

 

That's interesting. The loss of "compassion" when the value labels go

is something which would scare a lot of spiritually minded ppl.

 

 

 

A.

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On 7/12/01 at 1:16 PM mumblecat wrote:

 

º, "jb" <janb@a...> wrote:

º

ºOmkara writes:

º> ºAn interesting discovery... although 'experience' needs no

º> ºvalidation, according to vedanta, love/compassion are "sattva" and

º> ºthus still remaining attributes (substratum). Yet such a

ºdiscovery

º> ºwouldn't "prevent" love/compassion as an expression of " ".

º

ºJan writes:

º> That is why the term "history" was mentioned - unless there is a

º> history of 'love and compassion', it won't be expressed...

º> Sattva still is a guna - upon its dissolution, what remains

º> is its history and that will determine behavior.

º

º

ºso when the labeling of an act as "loving and compassionate" (or the

ºopposite) and the emotional memory of acts such labeled go, acts and

ºtheir history and future still remain but free of value flavor.... ?

 

It is the same way as with the sense of "I and you": when gone, it cannot be

found in memory either - memory has been "cleaned up" as well.

Regarding "love and compassion", not just the labeling goes, but the the

spontaneity - that has "surfaced" as knowledge and isn't compulsive in the

way the former feelings were - knowledge can be ignored but if feelings exceed a

threshold, ignoring becomes impossible.

 

º

ºThat's interesting. The loss of "compassion" when the value labels go

ºis something which would scare a lot of spiritually minded ppl.

º

Absolutely - but if only the labels would go, behavior would remain much the

same...

It won't, unless there is a "history"... This situation ("beyond" love and

compassion)

can be found also in the Gilgamesh epic, where it is veiled well for the reason

you

mentioned..

 

Jan

 

º

ºA.