Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 I think is right, so if only one member here says that they think it would be better if I take myself off this list, I will comply. I am next going to post Judi's posts about Harsha that a member here sent me. Love, Alton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 On 7/17/01 at 6:19 PM ALTON A ALTON wrote: ºI think is right, so if only one member here says that they think it ºwould be better if I take myself off this list, I will comply. º ºI am next going to post Judi's posts about Harsha that a member here ºsent me. ºLove, ºAlton Hi Alton, Do you realize that on a mailing list, even the credibility of words is low? Which means you yourself could, with another ID like for instance http://profiles./dogfood http://profiles./catnap complain about yourself? Could you see that unless posts are about a shared experiential area, it is merely a matter of belief? Not that that's important or futile, but then, what could matter is the "enjoyability factor" - telling stories or jokes... BTW, who would care one iota about "realized" when free from fear, guilt, shame, embarrassment, blaming, to mention but a few? Love, Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Dear Alton, You wrote: > I am next going to post Judi's posts > about Harsha that a member here sent me. Surprise yourself Alton... No need to send, no need to defend, no harm when you do, no benefit when you don't, no love lost, no love gained. Consider love... Consider water... Love, more so than water...which is just where it is, as much as there is, love is unconditionally so. There is not more or less love, depending on the conditional sharing of love. When a fish just hangs about it may even 'think' that there is no water. There is not more water when a fish swims faster and says: "Wow, I feel water!" There is not less water when the fish swims drifts downwards and complains that there seems less of it. The fish does not have to jump above the surface to prove the existence of water. Water, and more so love, is realized... distinct from the fish condition. Just ask a fish who realized it :-) Love, more so than water, is realized... distinct from the human condition... Just ask a human who realized the unconditionality of love. Whatever goes by the word l o v e and is mixed up with prerequisites in any which way (and that is exactly what you are doing, see next paragraph)... is even less than water... it is illusive. You say: > ...so if only one member here says that they think it > would be better if I take myself off this list, I will comply. This only has to do with you, not with any one member... You are so used to rejection or acceptance that you think life is lived that way. You know exactly how to deal with rejection.. you even try to set it up that way... You don't know how to deal with unconditional acceptance... no matter what, unless you surprise yourself in a totally unexpected way, you will replay this scenario again and again... You want to to be rejected? You won't be... Love and life has nothing to do with that... Anything else you would bring up about rules, four letter words, whether someone is enlightened or not, etc... are just deviating maneuvers. One of the first expressions you used on this list was "rubber stamping". Was that your second post or so? Could you tell us how many stamps you use? Gosh, Alton, you even have a list of questions? Does one of the stamps by any chance say "Passed" and the other one "Reject?" Do you see how strange this actually is... Anyway, do something you've never done before..., that means something that you've never done... Hard to know what that is, is it? As you have never done it... It is definitely not what you've ever done... Love, Wim PS Do not repeat the cycle... (notice your accidental (?) subject line) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 At 08:39 PM 7/17/01 +0100, you wrote: >On 7/17/01 at 6:19 PM ALTON A ALTON wrote: > >ºI think is right, so if only one member here says that they think it >ºwould be better if I take myself off this list, I will comply. >º >ºI am next going to post Judi's posts about Harsha that a member here >ºsent me. >ºLove, >ºAlton > >Hi Alton, > >Do you realize that on a mailing list, even the credibility of words is low? >Which means you yourself could, with another ID like for instance >http://profiles./dogfood >http://profiles./catnap >complain about yourself? Could you see that unless posts are about a shared >experiential area, it is merely a matter of belief? Not that that's important >or futile, but then, what could matter is the "enjoyability factor" - >telling stories >or jokes... > >BTW, who would care one iota about "realized" when free from fear, guilt, >shame, embarrassment, >blaming, to mention but a few? > >Love, >Jan Who would care one iota about "realized" when all as is, exactly as is, is appearing "within" your own self, and none of it whatsoever is other than your own self...? Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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