Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 papa swan OM shared with us [[Questioner: Some people reported you to have said that there was no need for a guru. [snip] Bhagavan Ramana: All depends on what you call guru. He need not be in a human form.]] ** I agree. "Guru", means "weighty one", or someone of great knowledge. It is not inclusive of spiritual teaching; but anyone we learn from. A guru can be a dance or math instructor, the man begging for coins on the corner, your child, a hostile clerk in a store. Truly, life is not filled with lessons, it is the lessons that we find in life. For the sake of clarity, there are prefixes & suffixes applied to 'guru'. Such as: - kulaguru = family teacher; - satguru = spiritual preceptor; - gurudev = divine preceptor. Either way, the notion of a guru in Hindu faith is based on "gurusishya", or the "master-disciple" format. Wherein it is felt that knowledge is best conveyed via a human relationship based on respect, commitment, devotion, obedience & personal instruction. At the same time, other philosophical branches within Sanatana Dharma, tell us that it is Lord Siva who assumes the form of Guru. Doing so out of intense love for humanity. That it is Siva's wishe that all should know Him & attain the blissful Sivapada, or, 'Siva stage' (meaning: to live as Siva). Again from the text, [[bhagavan Ramana: [snip] A time comes when he will no more pray for the fulfillment of material desires but for God Himself. God then appears to him in some form or other, human or non-human, to guide him to Himself in answer to his prayers and according to his needs.]] ** Jai Sri Bhagavan Ramana! Nicely put. Om Santi ... Yogini Sakti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 --- hamsayogini wrote: <SNIP > For the sake of clarity, there are prefixes & > suffixes applied > to 'guru'. Such as: > - kulaguru = family teacher; > - satguru = spiritual preceptor; > - gurudev = divine preceptor. Yep :-) I know there are going to be some discussions here on who is the the satguru? :-) HeHeHe I Am and any of the rest are form gurus. Perhaps even going to be a discussion again on "perceptor" :-) >From me to you welcome aboard. Is great list but is going to bite some time and I only came over here to say Hi to Amanda. :-) papa swan ===== Cognosce Te Ipsum Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 papa swan OM shared with us [[Questioner: Some people reported you to have said that there was no need for a guru. [snip] Bhagavan Ramana: All depends on what you call guru. He need not be in a human form.]] ** I agree. "Guru", means "weighty one", or someone of great knowledge. For me, guru = "from darkness to light" ... and understood Qabalistically "infinite light that includes darkness" ... A someone of great knowledge, may find having knowledge and being someone is weighty indeed, a dark burden. If this is discovered, there is movement to/as "light" ... It is not inclusive of spiritual teaching; but anyone we learn from. It is space itself. Formlessly knowing itself as form and formlessness. A guru can be a dance or math instructor, the man begging for coins on the corner, your child, a hostile clerk in a store. Truly, life is not filled with lessons, it is the lessons that we find in life. The whole of life, as is, is the guru. Peace, Dan For the sake of clarity, there are prefixes & suffixes applied to 'guru'. Such as: - kulaguru = family teacher; - satguru = spiritual preceptor; - gurudev = divine preceptor. Either way, the notion of a guru in Hindu faith is based on "gurusishya", or the "master-disciple" format. Wherein it is felt that knowledge is best conveyed via a human relationship based on respect, commitment, devotion, obedience & personal instruction. At the same time, other philosophical branches within Sanatana Dharma, tell us that it is Lord Siva who assumes the form of Guru. Doing so out of intense love for humanity. That it is Siva's wishe that all should know Him & attain the blissful Sivapada, or, 'Siva stage' (meaning: to live as Siva). Again from the text, [[bhagavan Ramana: [snip] A time comes when he will no more pray for the fulfillment of material desires but for God Himself. God then appears to him in some form or other, human or non-human, to guide him to Himself in answer to his prayers and according to his needs.]] ** Jai Sri Bhagavan Ramana! Nicely put. Om Santi ... Yogini Sakti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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