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For me, guru = "from darkness

to light" ...

and understood Qabalistically "infinite light that

includes darkness" ...

 

Aaah Dan, thou didst remind me of an

old favorite quote from grad school days of yore...

 

One does not become enlightened by

imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.

-- C.G. Jung

Hi Glo --

Yes, it's a nice quote.

The darkness is utterly and purely aware.

It's when viewed from a position apart, it

seems as if unconscious. If viewed from

a position of "good", it seems "bad" ...

Jung perhaps thought someone was there who had

to work to make the darkness conscious.

The "guru" shows that the darkness is who I am,

thus "bringing" light by "doing nothing"

....

-- or you could say

"making" darkness light -- as is ...

awareness all along, and no one there to

understand it, or make it become something..

This is light that includes darkness, neither

a duality nor nonduality ...

peace that includes war,

awareness that includes the conscious and

unconscious, truth that includes fiction,

wholeness that includes partialization --

totality that passes understanding ...

Love,

Dan

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This is light that includes darkness, neither a duality nor

nonduality ... peace that includes war, awareness that includes

the conscious and unconscious, truth that includes fiction,

wholeness that includes partialization -- totality that passes

understanding ...Love,Dan

Dear Dan,

 

Somewhere in the middle of reading this, you knocked out the power to

the house and set off the smoke alarm. I haven't wanted to complain

before this of the many times you have crashed my computer with your

power surges, because I like them. However,the smoke alarm never has

gone off in a power failure before, so please watch you don't set the

house afire. I don't think my insurance covers you.

 

Glo-ing in the dark here

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Must be some kundalini zap here. :-) Suggest you

ground yourself and save the house. :o

 

--- Gloria Lee <glee wrote:

> This is light that includes darkness, neither

> a duality nor nonduality ...

> peace that includes war,

> awareness that includes the conscious and

> unconscious, truth that includes fiction,

> wholeness that includes partialization --

> totality that passes understanding ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

>

>

> Dear Dan,

>

> Somewhere in the middle of reading this, you knocked

> out the power to the house and set off the smoke

> alarm. I haven't wanted to complain before this of

> the many times you have crashed my computer with

> your power surges, because I like them. However,the

> smoke alarm never has gone off in a power failure

> before, so please watch you don't set the house

> afire. I don't think my insurance covers you.

>

> Glo-ing in the dark here

>

 

 

=====

Cognosce Te Ipsum

 

 

 

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Dear

Dan,

 

Somewhere in the middle of reading

this, you knocked out the power to the house and set off the smoke alarm.

I haven't wanted to complain before this of the many times you have

crashed my computer with your power surges, because I like them.

However,the smoke alarm never has gone off in a power failure before, so

please watch you don't set the house afire. I don't think my insurance

covers you.

Glo, can you speak a little louder?

The noise of all these crackling flames

is making it hard to hear you ...

Glo-ing

in the dark here

Smiling florescently,

Dan Darkly

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Dan,Glo and friends,

You just helped me realize the answer to a question that has occupied

my mind for years. If enlightenment is, as it says, great light, why

is Kali, the Mother of us all,supreme Maya, the creative matrix,

always depicted as Black. You touch on some of the reasons here in

your 2 posts. Kali is that which acts in darkness, and is experienced

by most as instinct, blind emotional reaction, the appetites, etc..

It is only in her role as Guru or YogaMayi that she presents herself

as Siva, consciousness and light. Yoga, like Jungian Psychology,

seeks to make "the darkness conscious". I recognize Dan that this

isn't the idea that you are portraying, but only represents what it

tripped in me.

yours in the bonds,

eric

 

, Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

>

> >For me, guru = "from darkness to light" ...

> > and understood Qabalistically "infinite light that includes

darkness" ...

> >

> >Aaah Dan, thou didst remind me of an old favorite quote from grad

school

> >days of yore...

> >

> >One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but

by

> >making the darkness conscious.

> >-- C.G. Jung

>

> Hi Glo --

>

> Yes, it's a nice quote.

> The darkness is utterly and purely aware.

> It's when viewed from a position apart, it

> seems as if unconscious. If viewed from

> a position of "good", it seems "bad" ...

>

> Jung perhaps thought someone was there who had

> to work to make the darkness conscious.

> The "guru" shows that the darkness is who I am,

> thus "bringing" light by "doing nothing" ...

> -- or you could say

> "making" darkness light -- as is ...

>

> awareness all along, and no one there to

> understand it, or make it become something..

>

> This is light that includes darkness, neither

> a duality nor nonduality ...

> peace that includes war,

> awareness that includes the conscious and

> unconscious, truth that includes fiction,

> wholeness that includes partialization --

> totality that passes understanding ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

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Glo:

(snip) Dan will probably remind us none of this is real, but as long as

our imagination is playing with imagery and concepts..these are pretty

cool ones.

Dan (confirming Glo's expectation

that he will predictably

defy her expressed expectation

;-):

All of this is real.

If any of it could be unreal, there would have

to be an unreal person, who could really say

that it is unreal.

Therefore, it is *all* real ...

Love,

Really Dan

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- Daniel Berkow

Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:25 PM

Re: Glo / dark-light

Glo:(snip) Dan will probably remind us none of this is real, but as

long as our imagination is playing with imagery and concepts..these

are pretty cool ones.

Dan (confirming Glo's expectation that he will predictably

defy her expressed expectation ;-):All of this is real.If any of it

could be unreal, there would have to be an unreal person, who could

really say that it is unreal.Therefore, it is *all* real

....Love,Really Dan

Dan, you make me laugh like nobody makes me laugh!

Getting strange looks here...

Unexplainably,

Glo

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Someone asked [[if enlightenment is, as it says, great light, why

is Kali, the Mother of us all,supreme Maya, the creative matrix,

always depicted as Black.]]

** The 'light' of enlightenment is not 'light' as we commonly know

it (as in a lightbulb, a light color, light of the sun, etc).

 

Kali & Krishna both mean, "black". However, the black in Kali's name

further denotes 'time'. Her blackness represents 'formlessness'.

She is the 'void' from which was birthed Brahma, Vishu & Rudra

(creation, preservation & destruction).

 

Her power is not restricted to darkness & death. For example, She is

also known as Bhadra Kali, meaning, 'Auspicious Kali'.

 

Kali Herself speaks to us in the /Kulachudamani/. She says:

______

"I am Great Nature, consciousness, bliss, the quintessence, devotedly

praised.

 

Where I am, there is no Brahma, Hara, Shambhu or other devas, nor is

there creation, maintenance or dissolution.

 

Where I am there is no attachment, happiness, sadness, liberation,

goodness, faith, atheism, guru, or disciple.

 

... All things .. are my parts, born from my being. .. I, Lalita,

become of teh nature of nirvana.

 

... If I am known, what need is there for revealed scriptures and

sadhana? If I am unknown, what use for puja & revealed text? I am

the essense of creation, manifeste as woman, intoxicated with sexual

desire .. even given this, my true nature still remains secret."

______

Om Santi ...

Yogini Sakti

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