24 gurus .. was: Ramana Maharshi

[Guest guest]

Reference [[bhagavan Ramana: .. Dattatreya had twenty-four gurus :

the five elements, earth, water, etc.]]

 

Wim asked of Papa Swan [[Could you list the twenty four gurus of

Dattatreya starting with the five elements, ]]

** If I may interject .. I will summize these 'gurus' to be Asuddha

Tattvas, or the magnetic energy (Odic).

 

I say this because, there are 24 Asuddha Tattvas. Combined, they

make up the 'world' of asuddha maya (asuddha = impure). (Asuddha

Maya being the realm of astral and physical planes in which all souls

function through either manomaya, pranamaya, or annamaya kosas -

depending on their level of embodiment.)

 

These tattvas are: prakrita, buddhi, ahamkara, manas, stotra, tvak,

chakshu, rasana, ghrana, vak, pani, pada, payu, upastha, shabda,

sparsa, rupa, rasa, & gandha. The remainder are the five elements:

akasa, vayu, tejas, apas & prithivi.

 

Om Santi ...

Yogini Sakti

[Guest guest]

Now, could you please, translate those 24 words, whether vaguely or

exactly into English.

 

Appreciated.

 

By the way I do not believe that "asuddha" means "impure" in the western

sense of "dirty" as having picked up impurities .

We have a similar thing in English between expressions like subtle and

gross (not subtle) and any nuances in between.

Gross actually does not mean dirty for the same reason that impure does

not mean dirty.

 

Love, Wim

 

> Reference [[bhagavan Ramana: .. Dattatreya had twenty-four gurus :

> the five elements, earth, water, etc.]]

>

> Wim asked of Papa Swan [[Could you list the twenty four gurus of

> Dattatreya starting with the five elements, ]]

> ** If I may interject .. I will summize these 'gurus' to be Asuddha

> Tattvas, or the magnetic energy (Odic).

>

> I say this because, there are 24 Asuddha Tattvas. Combined, they

> make up the 'world' of asuddha maya (asuddha = impure). (Asuddha

> Maya being the realm of astral and physical planes in which all souls

> function through either manomaya, pranamaya, or annamaya kosas -

> depending on their level of embodiment.)

>

> These tattvas are: prakrita, buddhi, ahamkara, manas, stotra, tvak,

> chakshu, rasana, ghrana, vak, pani, pada, payu, upastha, shabda,

> sparsa, rupa, rasa, & gandha. The remainder are the five elements:

> akasa, vayu, tejas, apas & prithivi.

[Guest guest]

Wim wrote [[Now, could you please, translate those 24 words, whether

vaguely or exactly into English.]]

** I apologize. I was under the impression that most here - or at

least those involved in this conversaion - would know the meaning of

these words.

 

Asuddha Tattvas:

- prakrita / primal nature, that from which all tattvas are 'born'.

 

- buddhi / judgment, intellect, discrimination.

 

- ahamkara / sense of "I", egoism, individuality.

 

- manas / instinctive mind, link between outer & inner faculties.

 

- stotra / hearing (ears).

 

- tvak / touching (skin).

 

- chakshu / seeing (eyes).

 

- rasana / tasting (tongue).

 

- ghrana / smelling (nose).

 

- vak / speech (voice).

 

- pani / grasping (hands).

 

- pada / walking (feet).

 

- payu / excretion (anus).

 

- upastha / procreation (genitals).

 

- shabda / sound.

 

- sparsa / feel.

 

- rupa / form.

 

- rasa / taste.

 

- gandha / odor.

 

The five elements:

- akasa / space, or ether.

 

- vayu / air.

 

- tejas / fire.

 

- apas / water.

 

- prithivi / earth.

 

[[by the way I do not believe that "asuddha" means "impure" in the

western sense of "dirty" as having picked up impurities.]]

** You are correct. Hindi does not exactly translate (as many

languages do not) mostly due to the spiritual aspects & definitions

(in this circumstance). "Impure" in Hindu carries a different

connectation then it does in English.

 

Om Santi ...

Yogini Sakti