Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 >Hi Lobster, > >I know what you mean - I too thought of the generous, charitable poor >people I have known when I read that first item. I think what it might >mean is for a given person, it might be easier to be charitable when one is >not poor. For a given person, take away all their money, and they'll be >even less charitable than they were before. It could also mean that a poor >person isn't capable of giving away great quantities, even though they give >great percentages of what they do have. Among the Chinese Buddhists that I >know, for example the Buddha's Light International based in Taiwan, there's >great value placed on education, getting ahead in society so that the >family and temple and Dharma can be supported. And support it they do... :-) Hi Greg, (-: Thanks for your kind answer. Here on the Internet we are presented with ideas of people and from people. Many of us through circumstance, opportunity and experience are spiritually impoverished. In another more subtle way those who have made some little progress also consider themselves 'Poor before God'. In the dharma sense which you mention, the qualities of Metta, Boddhicitta, (a loving compassion independent of grasping trade) arises. Charity which provides us with a sense of having given or some other reward is in some sense a trade. In the context of this list we might see charity as the giving up of our negative clingings, habits and attitudes. Charity becomes a form of renunciation without concern for our possible attraction and return to the wealth of the ego. >Number (2) - you know, I have been in the Freemasons, 32nd degree. And by >and large, the ones that have great authority there, also have it on the >outside. They give time, money and influence to the organization. But >they tend not to be the ones who *study* it, who know the lore, the >ceremonies by heart, etc. Those are the studious, scholarly ones, mostly >not authoritative on the outside. And I never saw it practiced as a >spiritual path, though that's why I entered.... Same as at work in my job >now. Most of the people I know at work who study the Way in some fashion >or other don't have positions of great authority or responsibility. The >Directors and Partners study their responsibilities as Director and >Partner, by and large. If they study the Way at all, it's like nightstand >spirituality -- read a few nice thoughts before drifting off to sleep. >Which is pretty good, actually!! > >With you in the Ease, It is pretty good. Everyone finds their level. I would suggest that symbols and rituals convey realities without having meaning (until so invested). Any work has a component of contemplation and a focus of intent. How deep we go is independent of circumstance, opportunity and experience. Dyana, Chan and Zen arose from the lifting of a flower. The fragrance is available as each internal Buddha Nose. Lobster Cymbal exo meditation http://pages.britishlibrary.net/lobster/exxo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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