Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 At 12:17 PM 7/20/01, you wrote: > Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:11:23 -0400 > "Gloria Lee" <glee >Angelique & Lobster > >I forwarded your messages to Erich. thank you.. others did too.. I am dealing with him. He is an interesting reflection. I had to become a sadist to learn gentleness and restraint. He too has to explore the polarities of intensity in order to learn to temper his enthusiasm with compassion for the sensitivities of others. I teach best, what I most need to learn. >I think I'd better have that first cup of coffee, >before replying to your message, Angelique. LOL!! I am sorry to be so challenging. You too, played your part in the story of that healing.. poking a festering wound so it hurt enough for me to make a priority of healing it. I thanked you sincerely when I left, before.. Thank you, again. >Just want to say I am happy to see you return, >and I enjoyed the story you told. That is sweet! I still feel like a bull in a china shop here, tho.. afraid to move lest I break something. I spent years challenging myself to run headlong into anything that shocked or frightened me. Until I could make a joke of death and pain and see beauty where others are horrified. For me, singing and dancing in the cremation ground is a celebration of life, I forget that others may find it disrespectful. I am glad that you are happy at my return.. But you know what the arabs say.. "don't let a camel get its head inside your tent".. because the rest of it is sure to follow.. LOL!! The also say "Trust to Allah, but tie up the camels." ooooops! There I go talking about bondage again.. One track mind, eh? Blessings.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 At 12:17 PM 7/20/01, Harsha wrote: >RE: Re: mind slaves > >Thanks Angelique! Nice to hear from you again and glad to hear that all is >well. > >Love >Harsha hope all is well with you too.. good to see you are still your usual diplomatic self! Blessings.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shaman, Psychic, Empath, Healer www.fire-serpent.org/healing/ Fire Serpent Tantra www.fire-serpent.com Kundalini Gateway www.Kundalini-gateway.org Personal website www.domin8rex.com ================================================ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 At 12:17 PM 7/20/01, you wrote: >Re: "What is the purpose of not knowing?" >However, crack-addicted babies born to > mothers who stuff them into dumpsters > to die with cries unheard, are not serving > a higher purpose, nor did they choose > that experience to further the growth > of an individual soul. How can you know that? How can you know that some experiences do not serve a higher purpose? How can you believe it, and be a non-dualist? Just because we cannot know the purpose, doesn't mean that there is no purpose. Perhaps being born as a crack baby who dies in a dumpster, is the very experience a soul needs, to be motivated to reincarnate as a social worker, a fundraiser for Unicef, a care giver in a halfway house for drug addicted unwed mothers, a Mother Theresa or .. perhaps the purpose of the babies life and death, was to motivate *you* to have greater compassion. Those who have had near death experiences have come back to tell us, that when we die there is only one question that is asked.. only one thing in all of life that has any importance. That question is "How well did you Love?" The question would have no importance, if we did not have free will, to choose to love or to not love. The crack baby is born to give its mother, and you, and anyone.. that sacred choice. It is also said that when we die, we experience a "life review" where we re-experience not only our own lives and feelings, but we also feel how every one of our actions felt, to everyone we interacted with. How will it affect the Mother, to experience the pain of the child who died? How will it shape her soul's growth? Blessings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 Nobody diplomatic > hope all is well with you too.. good to see you are still your usual > diplomatic self! > Blessings.. Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 >However, crack-addicted babies born to > mothers who stuff them into dumpsters > to die with cries unheard, are not serving > a higher purpose, nor did they choose > that experience to further the growth > of an individual soul. How can you know that? How can you know that some experiences do not serve a higher purpose? How can you believe it, and be a non-dualist? Just because we cannot know the purpose, doesn't mean that there is no purpose. "Purpose" equals "belief". I know "being" by being *that*, not by trying to make it have a "higher purpose" for me. I am *this* -- without any purpose imposed by thought. It's not a belief. I know/am this -- it's first-hand, not second-hand the way an interpretation such as a "higher purpose" is. I have no interest in being a nondualist or a dualist. Is being a nondualist a concern of yours? Is having a higher purpose a concern of yours? If so -- good luck with it. I find no purpose to having a purpose or to being a nondualist -- whatever that is ;-) Perhaps being born as a crack baby who dies in a dumpster, is the very experience a soul needs, to be motivated to reincarnate as a social worker, a fundraiser for Unicef, a care giver in a halfway house for drug addicted unwed mothers, a Mother Theresa or .. perhaps the purpose of the babies life and death, was to motivate *you* to have greater compassion. Those who have had near death experiences have come back to tell us, that when we die there is only one question that is asked.. only one thing in all of life that has any importance. That question is "How well did you Love?" The "one that didn't come back" knows the "real story" -- And that one doesn't think that there is only one thing that has importance, in fact there isn't any importance placed on the questions and answers devised by thought for "this one" ... The question would have no importance, if we did not have free will, to choose to love or to not love. The crack baby is born to give its mother, and you, and anyone.. that sacred choice. Good luck with this belief system. The belief system looks quite limited from here. It is also said that when we die, we experience a "life review" where we re-experience not only our own lives and feelings, but we also feel how every one of our actions felt, to everyone we interacted with. How will it affect the Mother, to experience the pain of the child who died? How will it shape her soul's growth? Who is reviewing the "reviewer", who is having the life review? Where is the life review taking place? Who is it that is aware of the "entire situation", in which life, life review, and reviewer all appear (simultaneously and in mutual interrelationship)? This is your life review -- right now! Blessings... Sure thing! Blessings, blessings, blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 No purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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