Observing the formation of samskaras

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Namaste All,

 

I also just returned from a break in Mexico, my usual place to go,

unless I'm going to OZ.

 

Anyway it was an interesting insight to watch tourists and the locals.

All looking for happiness in their own way, and each thinking that the

other had the answer.

 

The observation of samskaras forming was amazing, and showed they are

unlimited and that there are no happy ones really.

 

I went to the church in San Blas where Juniper Serra left for

California. I wondered what samskara drove him, and I even to be

there.

 

There is no happiness in any manifestation, only at the surface level.

For deep below the surface in the subconscious are all the samskaras

and tendencies that cause the pain.

 

Every memory is a trap with a theatrical face, tragedy and comedy.

 

No memory no thought no samskaras purification and observation is the

key it seems.......ONS...Tony.

[Guest guest]

Tony O'Clery wrote:

<snip>

I went to the church in San Blas where Juniper

Serra left for

California. I wondered what samskara drove him, and I even to be

there.

Hi Tony - what church in San Blas do you speak of? That mission on the

hill from the seventeenth century? (the shell of)?

And please - what is a samskara?

There is no happiness in any manifestation, only

at the surface level.

For deep below the surface in the subconscious are all the samskaras

and tendencies that cause the pain.

hello again - I think we resonate here. maybe i haven't been paying attention,

and for that i apologize - but, what the heckola is a samskaras?

Every memory is a trap with a theatrical face,

tragedy and comedy.

I get that one alright...

No memory no thought no samskaras purification

and observation is the

key it seems.......ONS...Tony.

Okay - here's a break - what's ONS ?

For that matter, what's a 'Tony' ??

all my best,

valkyrie

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Tony wrote [[The observation of samskaras forming was amazing, and

showed they are unlimited and that there are no happy ones really.]]

** Yes .. the birth of samskaras can be 'seen'. In fact, making

this observation created an 'impression' within yourself.

 

There are several types of samskara. Generally, it

means, "impression, preparation, activation". A samskara is an

imprint put in place via experience. They begin while still in the

womb; birth brings many more; then on to childhood, adulthood &

maturity. In addition, these same samskaras also represent puja.

Sacred rites that mark the milestones & passages of our life.

 

[[There is no happiness in any manifestation, only at the surface

level.]]

** During my short time on this list, I have noticed that the

majority of those here adhere to Sankara's interpretation of the

Vedas. Personally, I am a Saivite. My view of maya is far different

than is often represented here.

 

Maya is ever changing matter; it is the body of Lord Siva. Maya

translates to mean, "She who measures; super-natural power". It is a

form of energy, the cosmic creative force. It contains within it the

motion of creation, preservation & destruction; therefore, it is

constant change. This latter interpretation has lead to the Western

correlation with "illusion" .. this is inaccurate. As such, my

perspective of maya as relative reality, versus the Absolute reality.

 

Om Santi ...

Yogini Sakti

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, v <akvalerian> wrote:

> Tony O'Clery wrote:

>

> > <snip>

>

> > I went to the church in San Blas where Juniper Serra left for

> > California. I wondered what samskara drove him, and I even to be

> > there.

>

> Hi Tony - what church in San Blas do you speak of? That mission on

the

> hill from the seventeenth century? (the shell of)?

> And please - what is a samskara?

valkyrie

 

Namaste Valkyrie,

 

The Church is the old one in town near the plaza and next to the newer

one. There is a plaque indicating Serra. He was the apostle of

California, which was part of Mexico at the time, as was Arizona,

Colorado, New Mexico, Texas and Utah for that matter. The ruin on the

hill is the old compound etc.

 

Samskaras are impressions in the mind that result from the action of

the mind going out so to speak. They carry on from life to life.

 

They need to be neutralised and purified to prevent 'rebirth', and

they interfere with realisation. Verbal non dualism, Vndism, isn't

enough, practice and purification is necessary, according to the

sages.

 

Om Namah Sivaya...Tony.

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, "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote:

> Namaste All,

>

> I also just returned from a break in Mexico, my usual place to go,

> unless I'm going to OZ.

>

> Anyway it was an interesting insight to watch tourists and the

locals.

> All looking for happiness in their own way, and each thinking that

the

> other had the answer.

 

...........if you think that was an intersting insight just wait till

you start seeing yourself as clearly as you see others. Hooowhee!Then

the fun really begins.

 

.............matthew

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, matthewfiles wrote:

> , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote:

> > Namaste All,

> >

> > I also just returned from a break in Mexico, my usual place to go,

> > unless I'm going to OZ.

> >

> > Anyway it was an interesting insight to watch tourists and the

> locals.

> > All looking for happiness in their own way, and each thinking that

> the

> > other had the answer.

>

> ..........if you think that was an intersting insight just wait till

> you start seeing yourself as clearly as you see others.

Hooowhee!Then

> the fun really begins.

>

> ............matthew

 

Namaste Matt,

 

Yes I do see myself as I see others, but it is hard laughing all the

time..Sometimes I cannot find myself?....ONS......Tony.