Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 nierika (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Valerie and Lobster wrote: (Valerie) >> I must say right now that she is being a little brat because of the revisiting of past abuses and the resulting rage...on top of just purging past hatefulness (which is very very hard on me right now) << (Lobster) >> I am very familiar with anger (hate activated) which at its route is fear of pain. << Dear Valerie ~ I am familiar with what you are talking about...very. Please be gentle with your "little brat." And Lobster, yes, underneath hate/anger/rage is suffering and pain, deep hurt, the wounding of the child. In my twenties and thirties my own suffering from seeing what was inside of me was beyond words really. As I heard Elizabeth Kubler Ross describe it at a conference I attended, I had encountered the "Hitler within." I was fortunate to have wonderful people like her cross my path with words of comfort and wisdom at such a difficult time in my life. I faced (I was going to was I was forced to face, but in truth, I believe I chose to face) the depth of my own "shadow" and see that I was capable of the most despicible acts. The fact that some people I respected told me, "we are all capable of terrible actions," didn't really comfort me as much as what Elizabeth said. For some reason I didn't believe them. I felt I was unique in the "monster" I carried around inside me. I had a great struggle with this...just to go on with my life, seeing what I had seen. At the same conference that Elizabeth spoke at, Jerry Jampolsky was also a speaker. He was there to talk about "attitudinal healing," which was based on his encounter with "A Course in Miracles." What he said was like an arrow of balm piercing my soul: "Everything that exists is either a cry for love or an expression of love." This sunk deeply into all the levels of myself; it helped me understand and better accept my father...and it defused my sense of shock and horror towards myself. All the reading I was doing at the time, in Eastern sacred texts, also gave me a sense of hope because they gave me a spirituality belief system that starts with the premise that we are inherently good and that our task is simply to remember or reconnect. (As opposed to the idea that we are born "bad" and must be "saved" or "repent.") If you can look at this aspect of yourself as a "brat," then you are already way ahead of where I was during the time I am describing. It shows that you are seeing that side of yourself with humor and that you are defusing its intensity. I am glad you have chosen to share this with us...thank you. Shanti shanti jyoti jyoti ~ Linda i appreciate your reply Linda - :-) but wouldn't you say that it's difficult to fathom being beaten and raped as either a cry for or expression of love - well - just as there is war and murder and starvation - la la - why do bad things happen to good people? Jerry Jampowlski - the eternal optimist... Elizabeth Kubler-Ross is one heckuva sharp gal. I have been close to death upon several occasions nd her insights are a great comfort. The way within is surely fraught with fathoms of mirrors and ghosts and demons with whom to wrestle. For me there are layers - like onion skins - or now being wired (weird), more like a defragmented hard drive and pockets of unassimilated past pains. I was just again in one about being enraged. I had to leave home age 14 and never stopped to look back. But there has been meditation and peace and great wisdom, then I fall into another layer-pocket which must be purged, brought into the Light and reassimilated into the entire system. those of you who will remind me that pain and fear are imaginary, i thankyou in advance. But whilst such are occuring - they appear very real and still do scathe the soul, which then needs a good laugh. heh :-) i have appreciated the Sufi way of increasing in love and kindness; it has helped at pensive moments in public. And I appreciate Paul's way of thanking God for everything - thankyou Paul! I did that, and it expanded my perception. you know - for what i am grateful is that i have such as i am - my small, insignificant and relatively uncomplicated self to heal - and not a whole nation, or a whole geographical area, such as Israel and the Middle East. The meaning of life - which is sacred to us here at our armchairs - is nothing to the zealots and fanatics over there. Murder and mayhem is seemingly a way of life there nowadays. And they need us to stop and bow our head and shine the Light over there - say a prayer for them there - for they shall surely perish into oblivion at this rate. With the nuclear capacity they have there, and giving lipservice to the tales of Armaggedon, I don't mind bringing up this bigger picture! all my best, valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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