Earth at Night...

July 31, 2001

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Namaste,

Omkara

August 1, 2001

Earth - from which light radiates from countless of points, is a wonderfull

visualisation of the spiritual awakening among light workers and uninitiated

around the world.

Let the Earth Shine!

Omkara <coresite

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Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:16 AM

Earth at Night...

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>Namaste,

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>Omkara

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>All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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August 1, 2001

Dear Omkara,

This brings tears to my eyes. I can say nothing now.

Thank you so much for sharing.

Love,

Kheyala

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Omkara

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:18 PM

Earth at Night...

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- The above image is very large (close to 400k)Below is the web page

linking the

picture:http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.htmlNamaste,Omkara/join

All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject

to the

August 1, 2001

, "Kheyala" <kheyala@n...> wrote:

> Dear Omkara,

>

> This brings tears to my eyes. I can say nothing now.

>

> Thank you so much for sharing.

Namaste Khelyala,IMO

This picture brings tears to your eyes? They are just electric lights

and land masses? There is beauty but there is also pollution

degradation exploitation and abuse to produce these lights!!

Having joyful feelings about the planet can create a return and more

vasanas and samskaras. It would be better to observe one's mind

observing the beauty or whatever. Just there is beauty as there is

just pain happening.

I try to observe myself observing and realise that is all that it is.

Even the so called Devas or Gods/Angels wish to be released from their

happiness. Bliss and emotion are a trap of the mind we have to rise

above joy and grief........ONS.......Tony.

August 1, 2001

, "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote:

> , "Kheyala" <kheyala@n...> wrote:

> > Dear Omkara,

> >

> > This brings tears to my eyes. I can say nothing now.

> >

> > Thank you so much for sharing.

>

> Namaste Khelyala,IMO

>

> This picture brings tears to your eyes? They are just electric

lights

> and land masses? There is beauty but there is also pollution

> degradation exploitation and abuse to produce these lights!!

Dearest, Beautiful Tony,

One sees a dung heap, and sees its beauty, one sees the marvelous

lights, and sees a dung heap. The beauty as they say, is in the eye

of the beholder.

> TONY:

> Having joyful feelings about the planet can create a return and

more

> vasanas and samskaras. It would be better to observe one's mind

> observing the beauty or whatever. Just there is beauty as there is

> just pain happening.

MAZIE:

Pain has its own beauty. So much worry about what one should be

observing and not observing, one misses the Beauty and the Joy.

Existence, Consciousness, and Bliss. This is not so bad as you seem

to think. I am in the Redwood forests as I type this. Out side the

window are towering giants, peaceful, loving beings. And I am in such

joy at this beauty I could swoon. Each morning I go out and meditate

in the forest and I am telling you, the beauty is so, so, so, I have

no words to tell you of this Beauty.

> TONY:

> I try to observe myself observing and realise that is all that it

is.

>

> Even the so called Devas or Gods/Angels wish to be released from

their

> happiness. Bliss and emotion are a trap of the mind we have to rise

> above joy and grief........ONS.......Tony.

MAZIE:

Yes indeed Tony, observing myself observing and I realize the

observing is filled with Joy and Bliss. And I am one of those who is

in no hurry to remove this from my consciousness. I know my Beloved

is with me and I know I have no worries about missing the mark, so to

speak. Bliss is not an emotion. It surpasses emotion and if you have

been in this Blissful state, perhaps you would view it a bit

differently. Maybe I am wrong, but why worry, just enjoy the scenery

and life will take care of itself. The Heart is the Home, and there

lies great Beauty my delightful and beautiful Tony. Dwell in the

Heart and forget the mind. The Bliss and Joy will take care of the

mind. Ah mind, such a happy little trickster! Such a fun and playful

friend! Hello Playmate! Let us play today in the forest of the Heart,

in the mindfields of Bliss! Hello Tony! Let's play today, let's dance

in joyful union of our hearts. I do love you so Tony!

Always Love, Always,

Mazie

August 1, 2001

, sraddha54@h... wrote:

> MAZIE:

> Yes indeed Tony, observing myself observing and I realize the

> observing is filled with Joy and Bliss. And I am one of those who is

> in no hurry to remove this from my consciousness. I know my Beloved

> is with me and I know I have no worries about missing the mark, so

to

> speak. Bliss is not an emotion. It surpasses emotion and if you have

> been in this Blissful state, perhaps you would view it a bit

> differently.

>

> Always Love, Always,

> Mazie

Namaste Mazie,

I have been in the Bliss State and it is the last impediment and

attachment to realisation, and the most difficult to overcome. It is

still within 'experience'.

Even Sat Chit Ananda is a description of Saguna Brahman not Nirguna,

therefore it is also unreal and an impediment.

Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony.

August 1, 2001

-

Tony O'Clery

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:03 AM

Re: Earth at Night...

, "Kheyala" <kheyala@n...> wrote:> Dear

Omkara,> > This brings tears to my eyes. I can say nothing now.>

> Thank you so much for sharing.Namaste Khelyala,IMOThis picture

brings tears to your eyes? They are just electric lights and land

masses? There is beauty but there is also pollution degradation

exploitation and abuse to produce these lights!!Having joyful

feelings about the planet can create a return and more vasanas and

samskaras. It would be better to observe one's mind observing the

beauty or whatever. Just there is beauty as there is just pain

happening.I try to observe myself observing and realise that is all

that it is.Even the so called Devas or Gods/Angels wish to be

released from their happiness. Bliss and emotion are a trap of the

mind we have to rise above joy and grief........ONS.......Tony.

Says Who?

August 1, 2001

Mazie wrote:

The Heart is the Home, and there lies great Beauty my delightful and

beautiful Tony. Dwell in the Heart and forget the mind. The Bliss and

Joy will take care of the mind. Ah mind, such a happy little

trickster! Such a fun and playful friend! Hello Playmate! Let us play

today in the forest of the Heart, in the mindfields of Bliss! Hello

Tony! Let's play today, let's dance in joyful union of our hearts. I

do love you so Tony!Always Love, Always,Mazie

I am dancing with YOU, Mazie!

Sweet sweet sweet

So.....(very big inhale)... sweet.

Love,

Kheyala

August 1, 2001

-

Tony O'Clery

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:14 PM

Re: Earth at Night...

, sraddha54@h... wrote:> MAZIE:> Yes indeed

Tony, observing myself observing and I realize the > observing is

filled with Joy and Bliss. And I am one of those who is > in no hurry

to remove this from my consciousness. I know my Beloved > is with me

and I know I have no worries about missing the mark, so to > speak.

Bliss is not an emotion. It surpasses emotion and if you have > been

in this Blissful state, perhaps you would view it a bit >

differently.> > Always Love, Always,> MazieNamaste Mazie,I have been

in the Bliss State and it is the last impediment and attachment to

realisation, and the most difficult to overcome. It is still within

'experience'.Even Sat Chit Ananda is a description of Saguna Brahman

not Nirguna, therefore it is also unreal and an impediment.Om Namah

Sivaya.....Tony.

Says who?

August 1, 2001

Tony O'Clery [aoclery]

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:15 PM

Re: Earth at Night...

Namaste Mazie,

I have been in the Bliss State and it is the last impediment and

attachment to realisation, and the most difficult to overcome. It is

still within 'experience'.

Even Sat Chit Ananda is a description of Saguna Brahman not Nirguna,

therefore it is also unreal and an impediment.

Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony.

********************************

At some point dear Tony, one gives up any concerns about impediments. That

is called surrender. That is Grace.

Love

Harsha

August 2, 2001

Dear Tony,

You wrote:

> I have been in the Bliss State...

So you "have been" in the Bliss State? That was obviously not the unchanging

state of unconditional and condition-less bliss.

> and it is the last impediment and attachment to realization,

> and the most difficult to overcome. It is still within 'experience'.

Impediments and attachments are concepts, notions, mental constructs, they

have no reality in "being" .

Conceptual attachment to the "notion of impediments" does not stand in the

way of realization...it stands in the way of the relinquishment of

attachments.

For as long as you believe that your notions have any importance, you are

impeding yourself by your attachment to your own concepts.

Saguna, Nirguna? Concepts Tony, just concepts.

You coined the term "verbal non dualism", don't you see how you could apply

a similar notion to Nirguna... verbal Nirguna?

> Even Sat Chit Ananda is a description of Saguna Brahman

> not Nirguna, therefore it is also unreal and an impediment.

Impediments are not real. As long as you think that impediments are real you

are impeding yourself.

You are as attached to your notions, as a dog is attached to the bone, it

does not want to let go off.

Holding on to the bone, the dog will continuously have to defend itself. By

dropping the bone it may have a chance to chew on it (that is, if it still

has to.)

Love, Wim

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August 2, 2001

Hi Wim,

>So you "have been" in the Bliss State? That was obviously not the unchanging

>state of unconditional and condition-less bliss.

I've been away from the lists for a while. Just happened to see your name

and took a peek - haven't seen any of this thread otherwise. But this

makes me think of a story.

One time when I was teaching a meditation group, a new woman came to the

class. At the end of the session, she came up and thanked me. And said

she wouldn't be back again. She said she had shot up into a state of such

bliss that it was absolutely terrible to have to come back - and she simply

couldn't keep doing that and having to come back again.

I think there is a level of such bliss, and it's not to be equated with the

experience of going into the All. It's somewhere on the 6th plane, maybe

at the top of it, to use the model and terminology of the DK/Bailey books.

People in general seem to be either basically more emotional/astral or more

intellectual, though the ideal, of course, is to get both into balance.

Those who are basically emotional seem to find it easier to move from the

2d plane to 4 and 6 - emotional to intuition to bliss. And those who are

more intellectual seem to move more easily on the 3-5-7 line.

I haven't myself experienced a place of such bliss that I would feel as

that woman did. That may be because the 3-5-7 line is my natural bent. Or

maybe I have been in the same place and don't experience it in the same way

that a 2-4-6 person would.

Anyway, I am sure there's a place of great bliss which isn't the All.

(Actually, I don't think I would call the All "blissful.")

Love,

Dharma

August 2, 2001

Mazie wrote [[One sees a dung heap, and sees its beauty, one sees the

marvelous lights, and sees a dung heap.]]

** Beautifully outrageous!

Om Santi ...

Yogini Sakti

August 2, 2001

, "Kheyala" <kheyala@n...> wrote:

>

> Even the so called Devas or Gods/Angels wish to be released from

their

> happiness. Bliss and emotion are a trap of the mind we have to

rise

> above joy and grief........ONS.......Tony.

>

> Says Who?

Namaste Kheyala,

I don't have the quotes at hand but I think you will find that the

Buddha and other sages have said that bliss is the last attachment, or

could be. Anything that can be discussed or experienced is within

experience or thought and therefore unreal.

I don't have the quotes at hand from the Hindu scriptures but it is

even logical to my mind that devas in heaven would wish to reincarnate

so they may achieve realisation, and liberation from their happiness.

Impediments and concepts aren't really the way I think about it. I

don't really think about it that much at all. If I was in a bliss

state a lot perhaps I would. I'm in an observation state.

ONS...Tony.

August 2, 2001

Tony O'Clery [aoclery]

Namaste Kheyala,

I don't have the quotes at hand but I think you will find that the

Buddha and other sages have said that bliss is the last attachment, or

could be. Anything that can be discussed or experienced is within

experience or thought and therefore unreal.

I don't have the quotes at hand from the Hindu scriptures but it is

even logical to my mind that devas in heaven would wish to reincarnate

so they may achieve realisation, and liberation from their happiness.

Impediments and concepts aren't really the way I think about it. I

don't really think about it that much at all. If I was in a bliss

state a lot perhaps I would. I'm in an observation state.

ONS...Tony.

************************

Good! What do you see?

Love

Harsha

August 2, 2001

, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

>

> Tony O'Clery [aoclery]

> Impediments and concepts aren't really the way I think about it. I

> don't really think about it that much at all. If I was in a bliss

> state a lot perhaps I would. I'm in an observation state.

>

> ONS...Tony.

> ************************

> Good! What do you see?

>

> Love

> Harsha

Namaste Harsha,

I see a constantly moving and changing illusion. Outside of myself and

inside myself. Sensations rising and falling infinitely. I see my mind

move to involvement and then to disengagement. I realise that I see

this, for myself is part of the unreal still. It amazes me how all

this individuality seems to arise and yet I claim ownership to

samskaras and desires. I realise that I am looking at pictures on a

screen and they aren't really there at all, even in physics it is a

fact. I wonder how all this happened or didn't happen. I observe a

fantasy a hare's horn, a barren mother's son. However drifting in and

out I still have to shake off my feelings of individuality. Who am I?

ONS....Tony.

August 2, 2001