Saivism vs Vedanta vs verses

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>Hamsa Yogini, I, too, am a Saivite, and believe as you do that Maya is

>Yogamaya, the creative power behind this relative world. It seems to me that

>this is a much better conception of reality to hold to in the modern world.

>It is quite significant that Vedic and Buddhist Absolutism gave birth to

>sadhana's that are so radical from a modern perspective as to seem impossible

>of accomplishment. Consider the sadhana of Ramakrishna's vedantic guru,

>Totapuri. It is unimaginable that someone could adhere to such a strict

>unyielding system of practices outside of the traditional context of rural

>India.

>

>I'm glad to read your contributions to this list.

>

>yours in the bonds,

>eric

>

>A funny subject - why label life as dream or illusion? Not only did such

>labels raise

>suspicion about the labeler as unable to cope with life "as is", such

>labeling could be

>interpreted as 'the' supreme misunderstanding...

>Not only isn't there a borderline between spiritual and worldly, it could

>be argued

>that nonduality (unable to discriminate between 'i' and 'you') is a

>necessity, to live

>a happy life that is sustainable as long as the sun is a white dwarf...

>So what if living a "natural" life (love, marriage, kids, friends) the

>"proper" way would

>"deliver" nonduality not only as a "boon" to continue life & spread the

>good news but

>would "deliver" the "beyond love & compassion" (Nirguna Brahman) when

the

>mind-body's term is finished? What would that mean to renunciators &

>cave-dwellers?

>Rare curiosities? Yes!!!

>

>That's no longer my cup of tea, dear friends

>

>Jan

 

 

Dear Jan and Eric, fellow Yokis,

It is very easy for some of us to see things in

terms of black or white, chicken or egg,

fish or lobster, cup of tea or empty pot.

Most of us feel drawn to life and spirit.

They are of course compatible.

The Saint in a cave or in a householder

are equal in merit and often the householder

has transcended the needs and indulgence

of a saintly cave lifestyle.

You will find most householder saints

find time to isolate their spiritual self

before returning to life.

However the indulgence of the

spiritual life is more difficult

to abandon.

Most of us are in between this continuum.

Whether dreams are real or life an illusion

is all very well to keep us occupied with

non essentials.

 

What is essential?

Time for an essentially illusionary cup of tea . . .

 

Lobster

 

-------- Here is something originally posted by Paul Cote ---------

 

Anything you want to ask a teacher, ask yourself, and wait for the

answer in silence.

 

Don't be spiritual; be honest instead.

 

Everyone is a mirror image of yourself--your own thinking coming back

to you.

 

"I don't know" is my favorite position. It's the only true position.

 

If I had a prayer, it would be this: "God spare me from the desire

for love, approval or appreciation."

 

Just keep coming home to yourself. You are the one you've been

waiting for.

 

The direct route is "God is everything; God is good."

 

The teacher you need is the person you're living with.

 

There are no physical limitations--only mental ones.

 

It's not your job to like me--it's mine.

 

You are your doctor. The Work is the medication. Make a house call.

 

I am the perpetrator of my suffering--but only all of it.

 

There is no beginning of time, only beginning of thought.

 

I am a lover of reality. When I argue with WHAT IS, I lose--but only

100% of the time.

 

What beliefs do I write about? The ones that hurt.

 

Don't pretend yourself beyond your evolution.

 

Personalities don't love; they want something.

 

No one has a memory. Thoughts simply appear now.

 

I am so busy thinking what you are thinking that I have lost my mind.

 

We are entering the dimension where we have control--the inside.

 

Do you want to meet the love of your life? Look in the mirror.

 

I don't let go of my concepts--I meet them with understanding. Then

they let go of me.

 

No one can hurt me. That's my job. I do that.

 

Thoughts appear. It's not personal. You're not doing it.

 

Ultimately I am all that I can know.

 

Confusion is the only suffering.

 

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