RE: Sankara said"World' (with editing changes, disregard previous meassage)

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony,

 

You wrote:

> Sankara said "World' is real whilst one is in it. or similar.

> The unreality at first observation is that it changes,

> therefore cannot be real.

 

So, you think that what you understood is what he meant?

Are you in the world?

Are you reading this?

Can you at this very moment not be in it?

Does the expression "The world is real whilst one is in it" apply to you?

> One has to deal with it but one doesn't have to believe in it.

One is not born with "disbelieve." Disbelieve is acquired through and run by

illusion and delusion. People who delude or suffer from delusion or illusion

suffer from a mental dysfunction. It is a very common dysfunction... People

who believe, suffer from it...people who disbelieve suffer from it.

The world does not require belief, the world IS, whether you believe it or

not. What a waste of energy to uphold beliefs or disbeliefs so

systematically!

Most humans have been deluded... under a spell... The spell includes verbal

commands that they cannot get free of it, such commands always end with

something similar to "you better believe it!"

When you have cut your finger does "not believing in the cut" do anything?

Good thing your body is real and does not follow up on your fallacious

belief in belief.

> Yes it is a projection of the power of maya,

> but she is an illusion ultimately also.

 

Just stop thinking that "your understanding of reality" matches reality,

Tony.

Your mind lives in illusion, your body lives in this world "whilst in it."

It would be good to start synchronizing your "mental self" with your body.

Coincide with yourself.

> All these variances are for only one purpose.....

> concentration and one pointedness.

> Whatever system you use is ok if it leads to 'awakening'.

 

No system needed, stop believing in what you so systematically believe in...

Love, Wim

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, "Wim Borsboom" <wim@a...> wrote:>

> Just stop thinking that "your understanding of reality" matches

reality,

> Tony.

> Your mind lives in illusion, your body lives in this world "whilst

in it."

> It would be good to start synchronizing your "mental self" with your

body.

> Coincide with yourself.

> > All these variances are for only one purpose.....

> > concentration and one pointedness.

> > Whatever system you use is ok if it leads to 'awakening'.

>

> No system needed, stop believing in what you so systematically

believe in...

> Love, Wim

 

Namaste Wim,

 

If one is consciously dreaming or observing one's dream, one still is

aware of the dream fact, even if the only way of ending it is by

shifiting attention to the waking or deep sleep state......

 

So as the observed dream is unreal so is the world. So is the interim

observer, or 'I'.

 

It is just all happening that's all.....Ultimately

didn't happen at all. For if consciousness is

universal what looks at what?..ONS......Tony.