Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Hello Tony, One must realize first one's emotions and their source, before one can become detached from them.. Emotions do arise from attachments. My comment to you was not based on your emotional comments of life, but rather the enjoyment of life.... Enjoyment is not an emotion. Rather, it is,just being. Just as love is not an emotion, but just is. I found your statement of attachment to bliss as being undesireable... well, rather undesireable.lol... {just kidding} All emotions aside.... for I do not consider my emotions as part of who I am... they are and are not part of life... and they are not part of reality.... but the heightened enjoyment of experiencing bliss in every moment of being... This for me is joy, love, bliss... that climb up the mountain to experience the lightness of being. Very preferrable to experiencing emotion... Yet your idea that experiencing bliss is yet just another attachment to life, well....... I am here probably for another 50 years.... Let bliss and love reign in my life..... so it may be shared with all of you.... And as I say this, it does not mean that I still prefer it over those moments of absolute silence, when all is still in my mind and body and spirit... and I am quiet within and without... This as well, as everything else we experience is enjoyable in its own right. And a very peaceful experience. I guess to sum it up, I feel that we should strive for one thing.... And that is absolute being..... and in this state, is love and acceptance. OH well, you know, I probably said all this wrong anyways... lol...and I dont care.... Know my attempts at expressing my "heart" does not come from emotion, but the freedom that all is right.... And I'm off to go play now.... The sun is shining... ))))) Hugs thru eternity Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 .. If you can observe the sensation before it has absolutely manifested you can be detached from the result. Any enjoyment creates binding samskaras hence a return. Yes, Tony. I understand what you are saying... And this is fine with me. )) The full spectrum of BEING does include all experiences... whether we allow the experience to be felt, or just observed... When one judges the experience felt as being less desireable than the experience observed. Then that person has judged themselves as less than or more than. Kinda tricky, knowing where to draw the line between judgement of a situation and just allowing a situation... Yet, I think you know this... Thanks for allowing me to share some thoughts with you... HUGS love ya __Loving Embraces__ __Lynette __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Namaste All, Instead if answering individually; let me say this. Any experience is binding if it is not treated in an attached way. Samskaras or Buddhist Sankaras are always formed. I am not saying don't interact just be detached and observe the interaction going on. I don't know whether emotions release karma or not. I don't think so and if they do it would be infinitisimal for karma is infinite. We cannot prune the tree only cut the roots. Who am I? drives the mind back through the sensations to the source in the same way as Buddha's meditation of observing and not reacting to sensation does. I am not condemning emotion and human love for that is this plane, but one should observe and not be attached. As long as one thought exists it bars moksha. ONS.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Listen, Tony: The words you say may be true, but how can we possibly take them seriously when they are coming directly from your butt??? Sincerely, Kheyala - Tony O'Clery Monday, August 06, 2001 9:05 AM Emotions, Namaste All,Instead if answering individually; let me say this. Any experience is binding if it is not treated in an attached way. Samskaras or Buddhist Sankaras are always formed.I am not saying don't interact just be detached and observe the interaction going on.I don't know whether emotions release karma or not. I don't think so and if they do it would be infinitisimal for karma is infinite. We cannot prune the tree only cut the roots.Who am I? drives the mind back through the sensations to the source in the same way as Buddha's meditation of observing and not reacting to sensation does.I am not condemning emotion and human love for that is this plane, but one should observe and not be attached.As long as one thought exists it bars moksha.ONS.....Tony./join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 , JustLynette@a... wrote: > Hello Tony, > > One must realize first one's emotions and their source, before one can become detached from them.. Emotions do arise from attachments. My comment to you was not based on your emotional comments of life, but rather the enjoyment of life.... Enjoyment is not an emotion. Rather, it is,just being. Just as love is not an emotion, but just is. I found your statement of attachment to bliss as being undesireable... well, rather undesireable.lol... {just kidding} > > All emotions aside.... for I do not consider my emotions as part of who I am... they are and are not part of life... and they are not part of reality.... but the heightened enjoyment of experiencing bliss in every moment of being... This for me is joy, love, bliss... that climb up the mountain to experience the lightness of being. Very preferrable to experiencing emotion... Namaste Lynette, All things must happen and be observed. For example 'there is pain', there is bliss etc. I do not try to enjoy life in an attached way,nor do I try to enjoy pain. It is all about in it with detachment. Sensations are just energy that we name various things, they are the connection between mind and body/body mind. If you can observe the sensation before it has absolutely manifested you can be detached from the result. Any enjoyment creates binding samskaras hence a return. This is why people who have a problem with the Buddhistic or Jnana path choose Bhakti, so they can channel all the energy and enjoyment in the direction of the 'beloved god form', until they are indistinguishable........ONS......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Thank you so much Lynette, for this wonderful and heartful response to Tony. Love, Wim > > JustLynette [JustLynette] > Monday, August 06, 2001 10:12 AM > > Re: Emotions, > > > Hello Tony, > > One must realize first one's emotions and their source, before > one can become detached from them.. Emotions do arise from > attachments. My comment to you was not based on your emotional > comments of life, but rather the enjoyment of life.... Enjoyment > is not an emotion. Rather, it is,just being. Just as love is not > an emotion, but just is. I found your statement of attachment to > bliss as being undesirable... well, rather undesireable.lol... > {just kidding} > > All emotions aside.... for I do not consider my emotions as part > of who I am... they are and are not part of life... and they are > not part of reality.... but the heightened enjoyment of > experiencing bliss in every moment of being... This for me is > joy, love, bliss... that climb up the mountain to experience the > lightness of being. Very preferrable to experiencing emotion... > > Yet your idea that experiencing bliss is yet just another > attachment to life, well....... I am here probably for another 50 > years.... Let bliss and love reign in my life..... so it may be > shared with all of you.... > > And as I say this, it does not mean that I still prefer it over > those moments of absolute silence, when all is still in my mind > and body and spirit... and I am quiet within and without... This > as well, as everything else we experience is enjoyable in its own > right. And a very peaceful experience. > > I guess to sum it up, I feel that we should strive for one > thing.... And that is absolute being..... and in this state, is > love and acceptance. > > OH well, you know, I probably said all this wrong anyways... > lol...and I dont care.... Know my attempts at expressing my > "heart" does not come from emotion, but the freedom that all is > right.... And I'm off to go play now.... The sun is shining... ))))) > > Hugs thru eternity > > Lynette > > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, > sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and > exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves > rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from > Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come > and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart > Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A > true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to > a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release 7/18/2001 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release 7/18/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 , "Kheyala" <kheyala@n...> wrote: > > Listen, Tony: > > The words you say may be true, > but how can we possibly take them seriously > when they are coming directly from your butt??? > > Sincerely, > Kheyala Namaste All, My butt is more intelligent than I, and is a good organ for getting rid of what is unecessary........ONS......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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