Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 Dear Wim, I look forward to your posts on the topic. Love Harsha Wim Borsboom [wim] Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:31 PM RE: Deep Sleep Dear Harsha, You wrote: > In Nirvikalpa Samadhi, one is in deep sleep and yet fully awake. > Have you read my post on The Deep Awake? > Ramana Maharshi has addressed these issues clearly. > Intellect can only go up to a point. In what I 'm going to write to Jennifer, I will also touch upon Nirvikalpa Samadhi. You may have noticed how I went into the "subject" matter (Who am I?), by pointing at a baby's acute awareness at birth. Wim: > A baby then, is born with unquestioned knowing, > there is no doubt about who it knows itself to be, > it IS ITSELF By the way, I write this from active personal memory, as much as possible verified with my parents. I had long talks with my mother who just visited Victoria from Holland for a month, just like I had long talks with my father before he passed on last year. > In Nirvikalpa Samadhi, one is in deep sleep and yet fully awake. I will deal with the Nirvikalpa Samadhi topic shortly (not in this post)... many will be surprised as to the nature of it... so many misnomers around that topic..., the simplicity... It's going to be neat... By the way, I hope that my accounts to Jennifer will not be seen as material to be argued about. Anybody who feels an urge to argue what they read in my pieces to her, better filter my messages out... as experience is not arguable... What I'll write will also be very simple, however wordy it may seem. :-) One will notice how I will expand on some views which may seem to go against the grain of traditional and current notions about enlightenment and realization... just bear with me... I will not bring in theoretical, spiritual or religious "ideas" unless I have personally experimented with their tangible, that is sensorially perceived, underlying energetic dynamics. If I should come up with something "theoretical" - I hope I will not - it would be based on first hand personal experience... it will be according to a very "subjective scientific" method. :-) Scientific??? Subjective??? Yes, because everything I have found in my experiments, was either at some point a repeat and corroboration of someone else's discovery, or has been successfully repeated and corroborated by someone else. The measuring instrument in this subjective scientific endeavour, is an inner instrument. It measures doubt. (I believe that Tony has just discovered it, good for him.) When I personally notice there is no doubt in what I bring up, it stands. When I have the slightest doubt... it already has no significance. Such a "subjective scientific method" can of course only be done when doubt is not compulsive, obsessive or habitual. I will endeavour to quote as little as possible, and I will try to use only English (OK, a bit of Dutch at times.) and very little Sanskrit. Love, Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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