Love

August 17, 2001

"Kheyala" <kheyala

Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:57 pm

"Love, "

Dear Everyone,

You know that "thing" people do when they send a letter full of weird

vibes and then sign "Love," and then their name?

Well that used to drive me nuts.

Then I read a letter by Yours Truly that did the same thing.

Doesn't that ALWAYS happen? When you judge someone and then find

yourself guilty of the same "crime"?

So, just now in the shower (I am still dripping, but when you gotta

write, you gotta write) where insights often like to visit me, I realized,

"Hey. Signing off with Love, well, that's what I REALLY mean...not the

other B.S." And so now I know for certain: that anyone who writes a silly

letter and signs off with Love, or Namaste, or ONS, or whatever, well, that

is what they are REALLY saying and I think that is just great! Don't you?

LOVE!

Kheyala

******************************

Thanks for sharing your insight into this Kheyala. When many people write,

they perhaps want to sign off by saying Love or Namaste, God bless, or

something like that but don't because they feel self-conscious. I hope in

this fellowship people will not feel that way. I guess the main thing is to

feel comfortable with what you are saying.

You know English is not my native tongue (Punjabi is), although I am the

most fluent in English now. But even now, I am not always clear about the

meaning of certain words. If some one can perhaps explain, what does

"Regards" mean, I would appreciate it. There are many people who when they

write to me end with "Regards". I have tried doing it myself with

professional colleagues. I will end a sentence with "Regards" and then feel

that somehow it does not convey what I want and then I will change it to

"Warm Regards". What does that term mean? Does that fall way short of "Love"

or is it pretty close. I hope its not like making a pass at someone for God

sake!

I have used "Warm Regards" for the first time in the last week but I don't

know what it conveys. I assume it conveys warm feelings. But how warm? I am

serious because I don't know. When I write "Lots of Love" or "Love to All" I

know what I am saying and what it means but with "Warm Regards" there is a

certain ambiguity. Actually I have no idea. There are many words in English

that I don't really understand in terms of nuance and just sort of go along

with what others are doing or saying and the context they are using it in.

So far it has worked well.

Anyway, sorry to raise such a trivial issue but I don't feel comfortable

using a word I don't understand. Any clarifications will be much

appreciated.

Thanks

Love to all plus Warm Regards (OK, is there such a term as Hot Regards?).

Harsha

August 17, 2001

Harsha, you crack me up. I think "regards" is a combination of expressing

respect and concern for the well being of another. But to cover all your bases,

I suggest you close all you future business correspondence with, "Lots of Love

and Hot Regards, Sincerely, Dr. Luthar...

Most affectionately,

Jill

>>> harsha-hkl 08/17/01 20:33 PM >>>

August 17, 2001

, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

>

> Love to all plus Warm Regards (OK, is there such a term as Hot

Regards?).

>

> Harsha

Dear Harsha,

I always see "Regards" as formal but thoughtful. It can seem

somewhat cold, depending on context, so adding "Warm" makes it

cozier! )

Love and warm regards!

Hillary

August 18, 2001

To me, what is puzzling (and amusing) is not WHAT

these terms mean, but WHY we feel obliged to use them

on this medium. I can see a romantic cupole using the

terms "love" or "affectionately" as their expressions

of intimacy for each other. But HERE it does look a

little awakward to me and a little bit superficial.

Even ther term namaste, when written, appears

articifial unless you hands are also in a praying

position!

>From the looks of it, this group is full of warm

hearted and best wishing people! It simply is not

necessary for us have our brotherly "love" feelings

oooze out to everyone every time we post a response;

it is understood!!

Puzzled as ever,

Nav

--- Harsha <harsha-hkl wrote:

> "Kheyala" <kheyala

> Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:57 pm

> "Love, "

>

> Dear Everyone,

>

> You know that "thing" people do when they send a

> letter full of weird

> vibes and then sign "Love," and then their name?

>

> Well that used to drive me nuts.

>

> Then I read a letter by Yours Truly that did the

> same thing.

>

> Doesn't that ALWAYS happen? When you judge

> someone and then find

> yourself guilty of the same "crime"?

>

> So, just now in the shower (I am still dripping,

> but when you gotta

> write, you gotta write) where insights often like to

> visit me, I realized,

> "Hey. Signing off with Love, well, that's what I

> REALLY mean...not the

> other B.S." And so now I know for certain: that

> anyone who writes a silly

> letter and signs off with Love, or Namaste, or ONS,

> or whatever, well, that

> is what they are REALLY saying and I think that is

> just great! Don't you?

>

> LOVE!

>

> Kheyala

> ******************************

> Thanks for sharing your insight into this Kheyala.

> When many people write,

> they perhaps want to sign off by saying Love or

> Namaste, God bless, or

> something like that but don't because they feel

> self-conscious. I hope in

> this fellowship people will not feel that way. I

> guess the main thing is to

> feel comfortable with what you are saying.

>

> You know English is not my native tongue (Punjabi

> is), although I am the

> most fluent in English now. But even now, I am not

> always clear about the

> meaning of certain words. If some one can perhaps

> explain, what does

> "Regards" mean, I would appreciate it. There are

> many people who when they

> write to me end with "Regards". I have tried doing

> it myself with

> professional colleagues. I will end a sentence with

> "Regards" and then feel

> that somehow it does not convey what I want and then

> I will change it to

> "Warm Regards". What does that term mean? Does that

> fall way short of "Love"

> or is it pretty close. I hope its not like making a

> pass at someone for God

> sake!

>

> I have used "Warm Regards" for the first time in the

> last week but I don't

> know what it conveys. I assume it conveys warm

> feelings. But how warm? I am

> serious because I don't know. When I write "Lots of

> Love" or "Love to All" I

> know what I am saying and what it means but with

> "Warm Regards" there is a

> certain ambiguity. Actually I have no idea. There

> are many words in English

> that I don't really understand in terms of nuance

> and just sort of go along

> with what others are doing or saying and the context

> they are using it in.

> So far it has worked well.

>

> Anyway, sorry to raise such a trivial issue but I

> don't feel comfortable

> using a word I don't understand. Any clarifications

> will be much

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks

> Love to all plus Warm Regards (OK, is there such a

> term as Hot Regards?).

>

> Harsha

>

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August 18, 2001

NAV! You have the same last name as Harsha! Are you from India too?

It's my impression that we say love and namaste precisely because

email is such a restricted means of communication. Without hugs and

smiles, what else can we do do? In my heart my hands are folded.

It's good you feel that its understood, and no one needs to feel

obligied to use it. Say whatever makes you feel comfortable. You can

even use regards!

Namste,

Gloria

- Navneet Luthar

Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:33 AM

Re: Love

To me, what is puzzling (and amusing) is not WHATthese terms mean, but

WHY we feel obliged to use themon this medium. I can see a romantic

cupole using theterms "love" or "affectionately" as their

expressionsof intimacy for each other. But HERE it does look alittle

awakward to me and a little bit superficial.Even ther term namaste,

when written, appearsarticifial unless you hands are also in a

prayingposition! From the looks of it, this group is full of

warmhearted and best wishing people! It simply is notnecessary for us

have our brotherly "love" feelingsoooze out to everyone every time we

post a response;it is understood!!Puzzled as ever,Nav--- Harsha

<harsha-hkl (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:> "Kheyala" <kheyala (AT) neteze (DOT) com>>

Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:57 pm> "Love, "> > Dear

Everyone,> > You know that "thing" people do when they send a>

letter full of weird> vibes and then sign "Love," and then their

name?> > Well that used to drive me nuts.> > Then I read a

letter by Yours Truly that did the> same thing.> > Doesn't that

ALWAYS happen? When you judge> someone and then find> yourself

guilty of the same "crime"?> > So, just now in the shower (I am

still dripping,> but when you gotta> write, you gotta write) where

insights often like to> visit me, I realized,> "Hey. Signing off

with Love, well, that's what I> REALLY mean...not the> other B.S."

And so now I know for certain: that> anyone who writes a silly>

letter and signs off with Love, or Namaste, or ONS,> or whatever,

well, that> is what they are REALLY saying and I think that is> just

great! Don't you?> > > LOVE!> > Kheyala>

******************************> Thanks for sharing your insight into

this Kheyala.> When many people write,> they perhaps want to sign off

by saying Love or> Namaste, God bless, or> something like that but

don't because they feel> self-conscious. I hope in> this fellowship

people will not feel that way. I> guess the main thing is to> feel

comfortable with what you are saying.> > You know English is not my

native tongue (Punjabi> is), although I am the> most fluent in

English now. But even now, I am not> always clear about the> meaning

of certain words. If some one can perhaps> explain, what does>

"Regards" mean, I would appreciate it. There are> many people who

when they> write to me end with "Regards". I have tried doing> it

myself with> professional colleagues. I will end a sentence with>

"Regards" and then feel> that somehow it does not convey what I want

and then> I will change it to> "Warm Regards". What does that term

mean? Does that> fall way short of "Love"> or is it pretty close. I

hope its not like making a> pass at someone for God> sake!> > I have

used "Warm Regards" for the first time in the> last week but I don't>

know what it conveys. I assume it conveys warm> feelings. But how

warm? I am> serious because I don't know. When I write "Lots of>

Love" or "Love to All" I> know what I am saying and what it means but

with> "Warm Regards" there is a> certain ambiguity. Actually I have no

idea. There> are many words in English> that I don't really understand

in terms of nuance> and just sort of go along> with what others are

doing or saying and the context> they are using it in.> So far it has

worked well.> > Anyway, sorry to raise such a trivial issue but I>

don't feel comfortable> using a word I don't understand. Any

clarifications> will be much> appreciated.> > Thanks> Love to all

plus Warm Regards (OK, is there such a> term as Hot Regards?).> >

Harsha> > Do You

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August 18, 2001

Dear Nav,

Sometimes we just can't help ourselves.

Love, (see?)

Kheyala

-

Navneet Luthar

Saturday, August 18, 2001 7:33 AM