Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Dear Greg,Tony... interesting that you mention EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing), since the stress I was talking about was "eye stress". I did say "a great deal of stress", and in a way it is, because it is the most subtle kind of stress imaginable. I'm talking about the conditioning process and the role that visual perception plays in inducing, confirming, and reinforcing the sense of separateness. This is placed in the context of a visually oriented world, that beomes more and more visually oriented. We are not noticing how the eyes acclimate to this change without relinquishing the idea of normalcy. My past references to "Zero Point Vision" take these factors into account and utilizes a deep eye relaxation to reach the Zero Point...effortlessly. I asked the question about relaxation to get some feedback since there is little mention of relaxation in list dialogue. Thanks for your helpful responses. Ed , Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > I agree with Tony - Vipassana is one of the most powerful forms of > meditation you can do! > > At 04:42 PM 8/20/01 -0000, Tony O'Clery wrote: > > > >Try Vipassana and then see what is blocking your > >progress....ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 , eea@a... wrote: > Dear Greg,Tony... > > interesting that you mention EMDR (Eye Movement > Desensitization and Reprocessing), since the stress I was > talking about was "eye stress". I did say "a great deal of > stress", and in a way it is, because it is the most subtle kind > of stress imaginable. > > I'm talking about the conditioning process and the role that > visual perception plays in inducing, confirming, and > reinforcing the sense of separateness. This is placed in the > context of a visually oriented world, that beomes more and > more visually oriented. We are not noticing how the eyes > acclimate to this change without relinquishing the idea of > normalcy. My past references to "Zero Point Vision" take > these factors into account and utilizes a deep eye relaxation > to reach the Zero Point...effortlessly. > > I asked the question about relaxation to get some feedback > since there is little mention of relaxation in list dialogue. > > Thanks for your helpful responses. > > Ed Namaste Ed. The eyes have it! Yes they can use a lot of energy and they do act as conduits for our visual perception of the universe. Hypnotists use eye movement in their work of relaxing a subject. Eyes can also be used for concentration which in a way is deep relaxation also. People use pictures and such things prior to meditation. Obviously one has to relax before one can enter a meditative state. Hypnosis is just a step on that road, where the conscious mind leaves the body, or is not in sync so to speak. If you watch TV for 20 minutes you are in a hypnotic state, to accept the commercials at the subconscious level. So the eyes are out way, or one of them, in perceiving and drawing the universe. Hence they can excite or quieten depending on the situation. However it all relates to the mind and observation. By observation one can enter deep relaxation as the impulses register in the mind. In the end result it is all in the mind. Relaxation is not meditation,but many people when they say meditation, they are talking of relaxation........ONS.......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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