Question for self-realizers/Tony

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Hi Tony,

 

 

It seems visually induced conditioning in a visually oriented world,

disturbs the integrity of the senses.

 

Deep relaxation of eyes, to a point of convergence with all sense

modalities, transcends the senses and the mind. (Zero Point Vision)

 

Ed

 

 

 

, "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote:

> , eea@a... wrote:

> > Dear Greg,Tony...

> >

> > interesting that you mention EMDR (Eye Movement

> > Desensitization and Reprocessing), since the stress I was

> > talking about was "eye stress". I did say "a great deal of

> > stress", and in a way it is, because it is the most subtle kind

> > of stress imaginable.

> >

> > I'm talking about the conditioning process and the role that

> > visual perception plays in inducing, confirming, and

> > reinforcing the sense of separateness. This is placed in the

> > context of a visually oriented world, that beomes more and

> > more visually oriented. We are not noticing how the eyes

> > acclimate to this change without relinquishing the idea of

> > normalcy. My past references to "Zero Point Vision" take

> > these factors into account and utilizes a deep eye relaxation

> > to reach the Zero Point...effortlessly.

> >

> > I asked the question about relaxation to get some feedback

> > since there is little mention of relaxation in list dialogue.

> >

> > Thanks for your helpful responses.

> >

> > Ed

> Namaste Ed.

>

> The eyes have it! Yes they can use a lot of energy and they do act

as

> conduits for our visual perception of the universe.

>

> Hypnotists use eye movement in their work of relaxing a subject.

>

> Eyes can also be used for concentration which in a way is deep

> relaxation also. People use pictures and such things prior to

> meditation.

>

> Obviously one has to relax before one can enter a meditative state.

> Hypnosis is just a step on that road, where the conscious mind

leaves

> the body, or is not in sync so to speak.

>

> If you watch TV for 20 minutes you are in a hypnotic state, to

accept

> the commercials at the subconscious level. So the eyes are out way,

or

> one of them, in perceiving and drawing the universe. Hence they can

> excite or quieten depending on the situation. However it all

relates

> to the mind and observation.

>

> By observation one can enter deep relaxation as the impulses

register

> in the mind.

>

> In the end result it is all in the mind. Relaxation is not

> meditation,but many people when they say meditation, they are

talking

> of relaxation........ONS.......Tony.