Guest guest Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 I don't think I ever got in touch with you to say how much I agree with you in your answer post to my "death events" post away back there when. At a time later in my life,during the almost complete self distruction of my alcohol days, I was sadly to note that "we seem to be built to survive the beatings that we inflict on ourselves." Looking back, I think that was probably the first 'original' observation I was to make about spiritual life. If leaving this earthly vale isn't in the karmic hand, no amount of our manipulation will make it so. Here we've been put, and here we'll stay until some arcane karmic recall is issued. Now, of course, I'm glad; but now is now, and then was then. yours in the bonds, eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 Dear Eric, I just accidentally demolished the letter you wrote me yesterday. I couldn't help it. Please see it as an act of Love, because that is what it is. If you are in a mood to take things personally, please do not read the following words. If your heart is open, do read on, and recognize the words from inside yourself....because it was you who provoked me to write this. Sincerely, Kheyala Eric wrote: "At a time later in my life,during the almost complete self distruction of my alcohol days, I was sadly to note that 'we seem to be built to survive the beatings that we inflict on ourselves.' Looking back, I think that was probably the first 'original' observation I was to make about spiritual life." Sweet Eric, This is not original and it is simply not true. Look at the billions of deaths throughout time of those who did not survive their own beatings. Why not discard this belief? It has holes all over it, and anyway it makes you suffer! Here is another one. You wrote: "If leaving this earthly vale isn't in the karmic hand, no amount of our manipulation will make it so. Here we've been put, and here we'll stay until some arcane karmic recall is issued." This, too, is just an idea that causes you to suffer. Isn't it possible to look at it from the reverse? Like this, perhaps? Who we are is the all-pervading Consciousness, Perfectly Perfect. Sometimes we imagine ourselves to be people who are subject to karma. Sometimes we imagine ourselves to be people who try to manipulate ourselves out of this peopleness. This doesn't work because of the simple fact that we never actually are people, and there never actually is a "karmic hand." It only appears so sometimes. Just like it really does appear that the sun comes up and goes down. /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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