Ramana and Kundalini,In search of K 3.

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, druout@a... wrote:

> , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote:

> > Ramana and Lakshmana Swamy give it not much validity as per

moksha, so

> > I am looking a little deeper on this subject.

> >

> > It seems it is only considered a method for obtaining

> > siddhis...ONS...Tony.

 

 

>

> Response: The yogis call it Kundalini Sakti. It is the same as

vritti of

> the form of God (Bhagavatakara vritti) of the bhaktas and vritti of

the form

> of Brahman (Brahmakara vritti) of the jnanis. It must be

preliminary to

> Realisation. The sensation produced may be sasid to be hot.

>

> p. 358

>

> Love, Hillary

 

Namaste Hillary et al,

 

Continuing on with this subject. Ramana says, A vritti is a

modification in the mind, so for example the ego is a vritti that is

connected to all subsequent vrittis.

 

So he is talking above about K-sakti being a modification( vibration

if you will), whether one is into Saguna or Nirguana. Of course energy

is the ultimate vritti, beyond that is Brahman. So it is necessary to

achieve purification of the vrittis before realisation occurrs. Not

just union of the opposite energies at the sahasrara. The ego sense is

called the cit-jada-granthi or knot between consciousness and the

inert body. Certain cakras are also referred to as granthis.

 

This brings me to the point again that most K activists if that is the

word, are on the outside looking in. They almost seem to not realise

that the whole situation is happening in the subtle bodies. The cakras

are but vortices and transducers between the subtle and physical

sheaths.

 

Dissolving a granthi on the sushumna, as it is said, is but purifying

and enhancing a particular sheath. Prana cannot do this alone,

conscious effort of sadhana is necessary, otherwise we have what

passes for K awakening in the West.

 

Which returns to my original premise that 'K' is actually cleansing

prana working on mainly the awareness sheath, accompanied by spiritual

practice. For again there is only karma and prana...All the talk of

Goddesses and K etc are mental religious constructs that aid as any

religion does..I took a look at Muktananda and he

doesn't really go that deep himself on this subject...ONS...Tony.