In search of the real K 2,Can't mix my metaphors

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, "Wim Borsboom" <wim@a...> wrote:

ssary is to get rid of the thought "I have not

realised".

>

> > One can whistle prana up and down the sushumna current forever,

> > but without sadhana it will accomplish nothing.

>

> Tony...have you gotten closer to say good riddance to the thought "I

have

> not realised".

>

> Loving you Tony, Wim

 

Namaste Wim,

 

I can't get the time to answer all your post as it is so mixed with

different philosophies, advaita, visishtadvaita, dvaita, and kundalini

yoga etc etc.

 

You are fully aware that I am on the path of advaita and that I

consider everything in experience unreal and an illusion.

 

I have attempted to enter the discussion of illusion by discussing K,

which to me is ultimately unreal, mental and imagination. Anyway it

has validity whilst one is still in the world. I don't express myself

so well sometimes, so you and a couple of others on here pick me up on

my expression. Instead of what I am trying to say.

 

Anyway Yes I have had all these so called K experiences, even the

involuntary movements or kriyas they are discussing.

 

However I still think most are on the outside looking in. Of course I

know about the spinal fluid etc etc, that wasn't my point.

 

My point is simple the cakras are transducers to the subtle body and

its sheaths. The sushumna currents are just that as well as any nadis.

 

To many of the K active, that's all they see, the outside currents,

cakras and nadis. It is the inner sheaths that are purifying, provided

there is sadhana. It seems from the outside to be moving from cakra to

cakra up the sushumna when it is actually on the more subtle inside

moving in the sheaths. The it is reflected through the cakras, like

light in coming through holes in a curtain.

 

K is prana, Sakti is Saguna Brahman.

k doesn't result in moksha or the lifting of illusion, only sadhana

can do that---spiritual practice. In that way what you call the K, or

the sheaths are cleansed allowing more awareness, and progress to

moksha.

 

Otherwise K is just another religious construction, helpful yes but

dualistic. In the West most of it is mumbo jumbo and full of

charlatans, fraud teachers and instructors who

as blind as the unfortunate students.........ONS......Tony.