Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been involved with Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has questions about it, you can email me. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 , "Paul " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been involved with > Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has questions about > it, you can email me. > > Paul Namaste Paul, Whilst I have your attention. In the New Yorker magazine a parade of young women reported that they were allegedly molested by Muktananda. They reported that he had a special bed built and the girls were to lie in this whilst he stood up and had intercourse with them. Afterwards he gave them gifts, some were under age virgins. He claimed that it was all kundalini tantra, as do the devotees of sai baba with his alleged molesting of boys. I am familiar with the brahmanas and left hand tantra writings, and even in their stuff I can't find anything like this. Many of these girls ended up going over to Ammachi. As I was active in the initial expose of sai baba, and listened to the devotees excuses for sai baba I would be interested in your take on this url. Your comments would be invaluable. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/SYDA-Yoga/ ONS......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Dear Paul, You are free to do that, of course. However you are also welcome to discuss your experiences and beliefs here. Please do not allow some criticism to create the impression that Siddha Yoga is not respected by the list in general. More information from a positive point of view would help us all to be better informed. Gloria - Paul Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:46 PM Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been involved with Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has questions about it, you can email me.Paul/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 , "Paul " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been involved with > Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has questions about > it, you can email me. > > Paul Namaste, Your comments on Liz Harris's piece would be interesting. This appeared in the New Yorker. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/SYDA-Yoga/leave.txt ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 I would be interested in your take on > this url. > > Your comments would be invaluable. I have had good experiences with Siddha Yoga. Because of the perfect mirror of the Guru, whatever inner stuff is there will be faced and worked on when one goes to the mirror! So, it is quite understandable there is a large "leaving Siddha yoga cult" who cannot quite seem to "leave"... They seem to be like the "moth before the flame". There are many people with Siddha Yoga. They may be more quiet than me. In my participation, I have attended or not attended and no one noticed. Now this might be an ego bust for some! I like the anonymity. There is no roster. I have missed attending satsang for months and sometimes years, and was not pressured by anyone to attend. This is not my idea of what would happen with cults such as Moonies or Church of Christ (Boston Movement), EST etc. Siddha Yoga is strictly a relationship of the individual to the mirror of the Guru. Everyone has their own work to do. Any donations are voluntary unless one wants to sign up for special course programs which don't seem to be necessary. (I received the Grace (Shaktipat) before ever attending any paid-for course). So, I would say you could go to Satsang and participate as you would like. Check it out. It is wonderful. I have never experienced any coercion. It is more like being ignored! The relationship is with God only. I would say if one has a Guru and is never experiencing any discomfort, perhaps no work is being done. But this would be within a level the student can understand and take. The Kundalini (Guru) regulates herself as she chips away the samskaras. I support Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 , "Paul " <pjcote@l...> wrote: > I would be interested in your take on > > this url. > > > > Your comments would be invaluable. > > > I have had good experiences with Siddha Yoga. Because of the perfect > mirror of the Guru, whatever inner stuff is there will be faced and > worked on when one goes to the mirror! So, it is quite > understandable there is a large "leaving Siddha yoga cult" who > cannot quite seem to "leave"... They seem to be like the "moth > before the flame". There are many people with Siddha Yoga. They may > be more quiet than me. > > In my participation, I have attended or not attended and no one > noticed. Now this might be an ego bust for some! I like the > anonymity. There is no roster. I have missed attending satsang for > months and sometimes years, and was not pressured by anyone to > attend. This is not my idea of what would happen with cults such as > Moonies or Church of Christ (Boston Movement), EST etc. Siddha Yoga > is strictly a relationship of the individual to the mirror of the > Guru. Everyone has their own work to do. Any donations are > voluntary unless one wants to sign up for special course programs > which don't seem to be necessary. (I received the Grace (Shaktipat) > before ever attending any paid-for course). > > So, I would say you could go to Satsang and participate as you would > like. Check it out. It is wonderful. I have never experienced any > coercion. It is more like being ignored! The relationship is with > God only. > > I would say if one has a Guru and is never experiencing any > discomfort, perhaps no work is being done. But this would be within > a level the student can understand and take. The Kundalini (Guru) > regulates herself as she chips away the samskaras. > > I support Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. > > Paul Namaste Paul, What you support is the 'true believer syndrome'. I could have taken all references to syda yoga out and replaced them with sai baba organisation and it would have read the same. I was in there as one of them for 15 years and I only broke out after I decided to defend sai and the org from the calumny. However in my research I found the calumny was actually the truth, so I broke my mindset of the 'true believer syndrome'. You sound like all the apologists for sai baba and any other cult based on personality. They don't need bars and restrictions for who is going to leave 'God', or his organisation on earth, whether it be sai baba or Muktananda, who by the way were friends... I realise there is no point in debating with you all I can say is, the only guru is the inner guru, and he doesn't need an outfit. .....ONS.......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Hi Paul, >>I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been >>involved with Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has >>questions about it, you can email me. > >Glo: >You are free to do that, of course. However you are also welcome to >discuss your experiences and beliefs here. Please do not allow some >criticism to create the impression that Siddha Yoga is not respected by >the list in general. I'll second that!! I'm one of the people here who found much help in Muktananda's books when my own Kundalini went into high gear. I always recommend him to people into Kundalini experience, especially his _Play of Consciousness_, along with Sanella's book for a medical doctor's perspective. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 , Dharma <deva@L...> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > >>I recommend Gurumayi and Siddha Yoga. I have been > >>involved with Siddha Yoga since 1986 and love it. If anyone has > >>questions about it, you can email me. > > > >Glo: > >You are free to do that, of course. However you are also welcome to > >discuss your experiences and beliefs here. Please do not allow some > >criticism to create the impression that Siddha Yoga is not respected by > >the list in general. > > I'll second that!! I'm one of the people here who found much help in > Muktananda's books when my own Kundalini went into high gear. I always > recommend him to people into Kundalini experience, especially his _Play of > Consciousness_, along with Sanella's book for a medical doctor's > perspective. > > Love, > Dharma Namaste Dharma, Why do you have a closed list group of disciples? This is very cultlike don't you think? I have read muktananda and as usual with these guys most has been written before and every now and then they trip themselves with their own input. I never found him to be that deep and his book on K is somewhat fanciful, and skates over the surface....... It is interesting that as a teacher, I couldn't use the word guru, that you find syda yoga which has been so destructive to people's lives something to be emulated. You should check with the Ammachi devotees who used to be devotees and were molested by mucky nanda what they think.....ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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