Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Dear Dharma, The attached cerebro spinal fluid picture is copy righted by © Papertech Inc., 1997. I have not found a perfect picture of the 5 paired ventricles. But try the following links: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:InmS-b0wjlw:www.epub.org.br/cm/n02/fund amentos/ventriiii_i.htm+brain+ventricles&hl=en or http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:oGQvsv8lnVU:faculty.washington.edu/chud ler/vent.html+brain+ventricles&hl=en scientific or http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:oGQvsv8lnVU:faculty.washington.edu/chud ler/vent.html+brain+ventricles&hl=en for kids. The info in the kids article is not fully correct as it has been established that CSF also surrounds the nerves, I believe that it has to do with the myelin sheaths. You know that I experiment a lot, as I am be able to control many of my internal physical processes. Yesterday night I increased my awareness of "innate divine glory" as high as I could, and the automatic "lower spinal and pelvic body pumping" accompanied this awareness as usual but more vigorously. (This is not to be compared to epileptic spasms, as, although it seems involuntary, it can be stopped at will, sped up and slowed down, just like we can with our breathing rhythm.) I had an extraordinary increase in the amount of cerebro-spinal fluid. Eventually I could not disperse the nectar / ambrosia fast enough, there was too much of it to come down sufficiently from the ventricles into my throat, my meninges swelled up and eventually a severe headache resulted as well an extreme tiredness throughout my body. According to descriptions of ppl. with migraines it was very comparable, colours, visions...etc. Also I got extremely hungry. By the way, Aspirin, Tylenol etc. do not work for this type of thing, I have played with that before. I was OK very quickly by sleeping it off, 't was too easy, but I had very busy dreams... So... not too much glory all at once... heeheehee. By the way my steady and unconditional state of bliss and love was not affected negatively at all...how could it be?!!! I always have some nectar/ambrosia coming down... Oh lucky me... May the elixir of divinity flow freely throughout all of us. Soma, nectar, ambrosia, amrita, elixir of the gods, it's all the same stuff..., when mortality concerns are overcome, one lives in and off amrita. Eternal life is a given... (It can only illusively be 'taken away.') Love, Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 Attachment: (image/jpeg) Cerebro Spinal Fluid.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (image/jpeg) Pineal and Pituitary Glands.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hi Wim, >I have not found a perfect picture of the 5 paired ventricles. >But try the following links: >http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:InmS-b0wjlw:www.epub.org.br/cm/n02/fund >amentos/ventriiii_i.htm+brain+ventricles&hl=en >or >http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:oGQvsv8lnVU:faculty.washington.edu/chud >ler/vent.html+brain+ventricles&hl=en >scientific or Thanks for this! What puzzled me was that I was aware of only three ventricles, the two lateral ventricles and the third ventricle, which lies between and under them. (The attached illustrations are from Itzhak Bentov, "Micromotion of the Body as a Factor In the Development of the Nervous System," which appeared as Appendix 1 in Lee Sannella, M.D. _Kundalini Experience_. Lower Lake CA: Integral Publishing.) I still haven't found 5 paired ventricles. The first two are paired... I don't see any other pairs. By following the URLs above, I did find information on a fourth ventricle, a small, narrow space going down below the others. But nowhere is there any mention of a fifth ventricle. Is there some other source that might mention it? Love, Dharma Attachment: (image/gif) Vent.GIF [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Dear Dharma, You wrote: > I still haven't found 5 paired ventricles. The first two are paired... I > don't see any other pairs. By following the URLs above, I did find > information on a fourth ventricle, a small, narrow space going down below > the others. But nowhere is there any mention of a fifth ventricle. Gray's Anatomy (pages 665, 666) talks about the fifth pair, it is of a different kind as the other four pairs, as it is filled with lymph, the connection to the other 4 pairs is not directly evident to the anatomist (They use dead bodies to figure it all out.) I have observed it clearly though. It is very important for the 'clearing up of old brain cells' and 'the growth of new brain cells', the lymph vessels of the lymph system play as important a role in the brain as the circulatory system. I have been talking about this for three years now and only about 3/4 of a year ago was it confirmed. I have made the connection with yawning as the process that enables this rejuvenation. Yep, yawning and stretching, I have described the 4 steps previously. Am now discovering how the cerebellum can be cleaned up and rejuvenated... (this is what Tony needs the most :-), works better than cleansing those illusive sheaths. :-) This is novel material, the yawning process has not been identified yet as an active dynamic in brain cell re-growth... Why is it the last thing we do before we go to sleep and the first thing we do after we wake up...? That is if we are not held back by our cultural inhibitions. I see clearly though, clairvoyantly, how the yawning process contributes to gray matter rejuvenation. Many of my clairvoyant discoveries were corroborated later scientifically (Especially in the quantum mechanics field. I have, as I wrote years ago to the Kundalini list, stood at the cradle of one of its major discoveries... Yep, I am a fun guy... In fact I have inspired some science guys...Wanna know how I do that?) Love, Wim By the way "immortal, amrita, ambrosia, amaranth" are related etymologically. The Sanskrit "mri" and "mrita" derive from the Aryan root MAR, to kill, smash, pound to smithereens (;-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hi Wim, >> I still haven't found 5 paired ventricles. The first two are paired... I >> don't see any other pairs. By following the URLs above, I did find >> information on a fourth ventricle, a small, narrow space going down below >> the others. But nowhere is there any mention of a fifth ventricle. > >Gray's Anatomy (pages 665, 666) talks about the fifth pair, it is of a >different kind as the other four pairs, Are you referring to the third as a pair then? And the fourth as a pair? > as it is filled with lymph, the >connection to the other 4 pairs is not directly evident to the anatomist >(They use dead bodies to figure it all out.) I have observed it clearly >though. Very interesting! Where is it? > It is very important for the 'clearing up of old brain cells' and >'the growth of new brain cells', the lymph vessels of the lymph system play >as important a role in the brain as the circulatory system. I have been >talking about this for three years now and only about 3/4 of a year ago was >it confirmed. Great! Who confirmed it? > I have made the connection with yawning as the process that >enables this rejuvenation. Yep, yawning and stretching, I have described the >4 steps previously. Am now discovering how the cerebellum can be cleaned up >and rejuvenated... (this is what Tony needs the most :-), works better than >cleansing those illusive sheaths. :-) Sheaths are just bodies. The brain cannot be entirely something else. ) >This is novel material, the yawning process has not been identified yet as >an active dynamic in brain cell re-growth... > >Why is it the last thing we do before we go to sleep and the first thing we >do after we wake up...? That is if we are not held back by our cultural >inhibitions. > >I see clearly though, clairvoyantly, how the yawning process contributes to >gray matter rejuvenation. If you have more details, I'd be interested in hearing about it. A few years ago it occurred to me that, rather than just blessing or "treating" my food and drink, I should just give it all to Goddess. We know that whatever we give her comes back in multiplied or improved form - or, if it doesn't come back, we get the energy equivalent back, and multiplied. So food and drink given to her should come back in the best possible form for the giver's body. Soon after I began doing that, an interesting thing began to happen. Every time I give food or drink to Goddess, I get a yawn. It has nothing to do with being tired, or with just waking or going to sleep. It's spontaneous and involuntary. Sometimes I say a word or two, and it hits. Sometimes just the intention does it - boom! Seems to me it could be called a kriya. Certainly it involves throat chakra, but I think much more. A big yawn seems to involve the chest and the whole head - the eyes may go shut, and I feel it in my head. If it has to do with rejuvenation of the gray matter, I certainly welcome that. I was sick for years with CFS/ME until getting well in '97 - and recently have had a slight recurrence. CFS causes brain damage in the form of punctate lesions - holes in the brain. They show up on sophisticated MRI scans. The damage is reversible, the scans do show change in both directions over time. The effects of the damage depend on where the inflammation/lesions happens. For instance, it knocked out my math ability - for a long time I could hardly look at numbers without extreme discomfort - a kind of headache without pain. Nerves are slow to recover and repair themselves, of course. But just the other day I did my first math-type logic problem in many years!! It wasn't that much fun, but it wasn't that difficult either... and I was so excited that I could actually do it! >By the way "immortal, amrita, ambrosia, amaranth" are related >etymologically. "Ambrosia"?? Where did the "b" and the "s" come from? Well, I guess the ":t" could become "s"... do you know about this? > The Sanskrit "mri" and "mrita" derive from the Aryan root >MAR, to kill, smash, pound to smithereens (;-) Very interesting! Sometimes words are used to mean one thing and also its opposite... I wonder if "amrita" means something like "the healer" or "the life-giver"? Or might it even carry both meanings? The destroyer and the life-giver?? Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Dear Dharma, Are you referring to the third as a pair then? And the fourth as a pair? Yes > as it is filled with lymph, the >connection to the other 4 pairs is not directly evident to the anatomist >(They use dead bodies to figure it all out.) I have observed it clearly >though. Very interesting! Where is it? Read Gray's anatomy. It is important to start looking for it oneself, use intuition. > It is very important for the 'clearing up of old brain cells' and >'the growth of new brain cells', the lymph vessels of the lymph system play >as important a role in the brain as the circulatory system. I have been >talking about this for three years now and only about 3/4 of a year ago was >it confirmed. Great! Who confirmed it? Oh it was allover the place, newspapers, New Scientist, Nature. >This is novel material, the yawning process has not been identified yet as >an active dynamic in brain cell re-growth... > >Why is it the last thing we do before we go to sleep and the first thing we >do after we wake up...? That is if we are not held back by our cultural >inhibitions. > >I see clearly though, clairvoyantly, how the yawning process contributes to >gray matter rejuvenation. If you have more details, I'd be interested in hearing about it. When I have time, I will repost... Soon after I began doing that, an interesting thing began to happen. Every time I give food or drink to Goddess, I get a yawn. You see babies and toddlers do that as well... Not sure how giving to the goddess is involved with babies... maybe getting from the goddess... the mother? Seems to me it could be called a kriya. Certainly it involves throat chakra, but I think much more. A big yawn seems to involve the chest and the whole head - the eyes may go shut, and I feel it in my head. Absolutely, that is exactly what my yawning advise is about. If it has to do with rejuvenation of the gray matter, I certainly welcome that. Yep I was sick for years with CFS/ME until getting well in '97 - and recently have had a slight recurrence. CFS causes brain damage in the form of punctate lesions - holes in the brain. I know, I see it clairvoyantly, see it on my Aura machine as well. They show up on sophisticated MRI scans. The damage is reversible, the scans do show change in both directions over time. The effects of the damage depend on where the inflammation/lesions happens. For instance, it knocked out my math ability - for a long time I could hardly look at numbers without extreme discomfort - a kind of headache without pain. Yep, it comes back... Nerves are slow to recover and repair themselves, of course. But just the other day I did my first math-type logic problem in many years!! It wasn't that much fun, but it wasn't that difficult either... and I was so excited that I could actually do it! >By the way "immortal, amrita, ambrosia, amaranth" are related >etymologically. "Ambrosia"?? Where did the "b" and the "s" come from? Well, I guess the ":t" could become "s"... do you know about this? All that is pure etymology, there are good linguistic books on this. > The Sanskrit "mri" and "mrita" derive from the Aryan root >MAR, to kill, smash, pound to smithereens (;-) Very interesting! Sometimes words are used to mean one thing and also its opposite... I wonder if "amrita" means something like "the healer" or "the life-giver"? Or might it even carry both meanings? The destroyer and the life-giver?? Academos, (the demi-god) was the human who invented the arrow head, axe, cutting and scraping tools. Tools for destruction? He also became the healer of people, trepanning even. Love, Dharma Reciprocal, Wim. /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hey you guys, Everytime I read your posts about yawning, I yawn. Now...I am ..... yawning.....again. - Wim Borsboom Friday, August 31, 2001 9:26 AM RE: The physical aspect of ambrosia (amrita) Dear Dharma,Are you referring to the third as a pair then? And the fourth as a pair?Yes> as it is filled with lymph, the>connection to the other 4 pairs is not directly evident to the anatomist>(They use dead bodies to figure it all out.) I have observed it clearly>though.Very interesting! Where is it?Read Gray's anatomy. It is important to start looking for it oneself, useintuition.> It is very important for the 'clearing up of old brain cells' and>'the growth of new brain cells', the lymph vessels of the lymph system play>as important a role in the brain as the circulatory system. I have been>talking about this for three years now and only about 3/4 of a year ago was>it confirmed.Great! Who confirmed it?Oh it was allover the place, newspapers, New Scientist, Nature.>This is novel material, the yawning process has not been identified yet as>an active dynamic in brain cell re-growth...>>Why is it the last thing we do before we go to sleep and the first thing we>do after we wake up...? That is if we are not held back by our cultural>inhibitions.>>I see clearly though, clairvoyantly, how the yawning process contributes to>gray matter rejuvenation.If you have more details, I'd be interested in hearing about it. :)When I have time, I will repost...Soon after I began doing that, an interesting thing began to happen. Everytime I give food or drink to Goddess, I get a yawn.You see babies and toddlers do that as well... Not sure how giving to thegoddess is involved with babies... maybe getting from the goddess... themother? :)Seems to me it could be called a kriya. Certainly it involves throatchakra, but I think much more. A big yawn seems to involve the chest andthe whole head - the eyes may go shut, and I feel it in my head.Absolutely, that is exactly what my yawning advise is about.If it has to do with rejuvenation of the gray matter, I certainly welcomethat.YepI was sick for years with CFS/ME until getting well in '97 - andrecently have had a slight recurrence. CFS causes brain damage in the formof punctate lesions - holes in the brain.I know, I see it clairvoyantly, see it on my Aura machine as well.They show up on sophisticatedMRI scans. The damage is reversible, the scans do show change in bothdirections over time. The effects of the damage depend on where theinflammation/lesions happens.For instance, it knocked out my math ability- for a long time I could hardly look at numbers without extreme discomfort- a kind of headache without pain. :)Yep, it comes back...Nerves are slow to recover and repair themselves, of course. But just theother day I did my first math-type logic problem in many years!! It wasn'tthat much fun, but it wasn't that difficult either... and I was so excitedthat I could actually do it! >By the way "immortal, amrita, ambrosia, amaranth" are related>etymologically."Ambrosia"?? Where did the "b" and the "s" come from? Well, I guess the":t" could become "s"... do you know about this?All that is pure etymology, there are good linguistic books on this.> The Sanskrit "mri" and "mrita" derive from the Aryan root>MAR, to kill, smash, pound to smithereens (;-)Very interesting! Sometimes words are used to mean one thing and also itsopposite... I wonder if "amrita" means something like "the healer" or "thelife-giver"? Or might it even carry both meanings? The destroyer and thelife-giver??Academos, (the demi-god) was the human who invented the arrow head, axe,cutting and scraping tools. Tools for destruction?He also became the healer of people, trepanning even.Love,DharmaReciprocal, Wim./join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subsideback into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different thanthe ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home iswhere the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of EternalBeing. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneouslyarising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 , "Wim Borsboom" <wim@a...> wrote: > Dear Dharma, > > Are you referring to the third as a pair then? And the fourth as a pair? > Yes : 8/7/2001 Namaste Wim, Are you sure you aren't talking of post nasal drip...hahahahONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hi Wim, >> as it is filled with lymph, the >>connection to the other 4 pairs is not directly evident to the anatomist >>(They use dead bodies to figure it all out.) I have observed it clearly >>though. > >Very interesting! Where is it? > >Read Gray's anatomy. It is important to start looking for it oneself, use >intuition. Oh thank you for that, honey! I just have about a million other things to take care of before I go looking for a copy of Gray's to locate the fifth ventricle. ))))) LOL! ))))))))) Just thought you might remember. >> It is very important for the 'clearing up of old brain cells' and >>'the growth of new brain cells', the lymph vessels of the lymph system play >>as important a role in the brain as the circulatory system. I have been >>talking about this for three years now and only about 3/4 of a year ago was >>it confirmed. > >Great! Who confirmed it? >Oh it was allover the place, newspapers, New Scientist, Nature. Okay, so much for that subject.... Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hey Kheyala, > Hey you guys, Everytime I read your posts about yawning, I yawn. > Now...I am ..... yawning.....again. Catching, isn't it? )))))) Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Dear Tony, You wrote: > Are you sure you aren't talking of post nasal drip...hahahah Always interpreting, eh... ? Never reading. Always knowing better, eh...? And so often that strange laughter of yours... If you would have read my other posts and web pages, you would have noticed that I mentioned that as not being so. > Are you sure you aren't talking of post nasal drip...hahahah > The first experience is a traumatic one at birth, > where the child cries, Oh no!!,,'Born again, born again'. Tony, what about your post natal stress...? Love, Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 8/7/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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