Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 Hi All, Hillary just sent me the following quote, explaining the source of the term "emotional kriyas." It was coined by Christina Grof; you can find more about her with a web search. Thanks, Hillary! >Message 4520 Kundalini-gateway list: > >"The following is from Shared Transformation issue # 6. I don't think El >would mind if I quoted some excerpts from this beautiful piece. " > >"...More painfully, those loved ones who do stand by us may recoil during our >bouts of "emotional kriyas." Christina Grof coined this term to describe the >seemingly inappropriate and overblown emotional reactions that occur in >certain stages of awakening. During these periods, we may feel emotionally >out of control. Our moods may shift so rapidly, and our feelings may be so >volatile or excessive that others are alienated from us. Those of us who are >living on such an emotional roller coaster may be shocked at our own >behavior. Afterwards, we may be plagued with guilt, remorse, or >embarrassment...." For El Collie's "Shared Transformations" page: http://members.aol.com/ckress/st.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 Dharma & Friends, I don't want to spoil the party, but Baba Muktananda as well as his devotees have been using, and writing about, emotional kriyas for about 25 years before Cristina picked up a pen. Christina was a student of Muktananda's for years. I use the term "student" as I don't know whether disciple or devotee would be accurate. Cristina came to believe that 'Kundalini awakening' may often be abusive, and thereafter founded her own rescue operation and "Teachings for hire" on the subject. I think she deserves all the credit for her inspired and truly life affirming, and sometimes, life saving, work involving K.awakening which she called "spiritual emergency" or "emergence" according to context. A little history never hurts. yours in the bonds, eric , Dharma <deva@L...> wrote: > Hi All, > > Hillary just sent me the following quote, explaining the source of the term > "emotional kriyas." It was coined by Christina Grof; you can find more > about her with a web search. Thanks, Hillary! > > >Message 4520 Kundalini-gateway list: > > > >"The following is from Shared Transformation issue # 6. I don't think El > >would mind if I quoted some excerpts from this beautiful piece. " > > > >"...More painfully, those loved ones who do stand by us may recoil during our > >bouts of "emotional kriyas." Christina Grof coined this term to describe the > >seemingly inappropriate and overblown emotional reactions that occur in > >certain stages of awakening. During these periods, we may feel emotionally > >out of control. Our moods may shift so rapidly, and our feelings may be so > >volatile or excessive that others are alienated from us. Those of us who are > >living on such an emotional roller coaster may be shocked at our own > >behavior. Afterwards, we may be plagued with guilt, remorse, or > >embarrassment...." > > For El Collie's "Shared Transformations" page: > http://members.aol.com/ckress/st.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 , EBlackstead@c... wrote: > Dharma & Friends, > > I don't want to spoil the party, but Baba Muktananda as well as his > devotees have been using, and writing about, emotional kriyas for > about 25 years before Cristina picked up a pen. Christina was a Namaste Eric, Where did Mucky-Nanda get it from? His own writings are so superficial...ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 >"...More painfully, those loved ones who do stand by us may recoil during our >bouts of "emotional kriyas." Christina Grof coined this term to describe the >seemingly inappropriate and overblown emotional reactions that occur in >certain stages of awakening. During these periods, we may feel emotionally >out of control. Our moods may shift so rapidly, and our feelings may be so >volatile or excessive that others are alienated from us. Those of us who are >living on such an emotional roller coaster may be shocked at our own >behavior. Afterwards, we may be plagued with guilt, remorse, or >embarrassment...." Hi Dharma ~ hmmm...how does she know me and my family so well. Perhaps the k is awakening in us all, for this very accurately describes what occurred during a recent visit where most of us got together. On the other hand, did you ever see the movie, "Stuart Saves His Family"? Briefly, for my part, I became hurt a number of times at a family member's behavior, over a two week period. Each time, I shared the hurt with my hubby, and then dealt with it myself, or so I thought. But as this happened a number of times, he became more upset at my distress and wanted to intervene. I asked him to let me handle it my own way. Then one morning it all came to a head. Something happened. I felt hurt. I left the campsite where we had our trailers parked and went for a walk so I could get my feelings back under control. When I came back, I discovered that all heck had broken out, for my hubby had taken up my defense; a fight ensued; several week later and a few days ago, I received an eight page letter from my sister outlining all my selfish behavior, not only during the visit, but back into the past. She said she wasn't speaking to me. (Of course this is perhaps better than the last time this kind of thing happened when I received a letter from her husband, another 8 pager, calling me, in so many words and ways, Linda the Dark and the Terrible, and that, as far as my family was concerned, I was dead. Hmmm...of course I am preoccupied with this, and why am I sharing such personal information with the group? Right now, my connection to you all is helping me cope. Also, I go back and read some of my spiritual resources and I find places where they say things like people will say harsh words and abuse you, but stay the course...or...when people are beginning to develop spiritually and come together, especially around a holy person, their trips (vasanas) come out in full force. It seems there is something at play that is supposed to bring the vasanas to light so they can be transcended. For the past several days, I have gone through so many emotions, with such an extreme pitch, that I feel like a wrung out dishrag. Yesterday, most of the day, I was not all here. I felt so high, like my head was as big as a truck, and my body felt alien. I had trouble walking and doing things. I thought I was having a major dissociative episode, and perhaps I was, but this quote you have shared gives me another way to think about what is going on. I am throwing myself at the feet of the Divine now, taking refuge, etc. Shanti ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 Hi Linda, >>"...More painfully, those loved ones who do stand by us may recoil during >>our >bouts of "emotional kriyas." Christina Grof coined this term to >>describe the >seemingly inappropriate and overblown emotional reactions >>that occur in >certain stages of awakening. During these periods, we may >>feel emotionally >out of control. Our moods may shift so rapidly, and >>our feelings may be so >volatile or excessive that others are alienated >>from us. Those of us who are >living on such an emotional roller >>coaster may be shocked at our own >behavior. Afterwards, we may be >>plagued with guilt, remorse, or >embarrassment...." > > Hi Dharma ~ hmmm...how does she know me and my family so well. Perhaps >the k is awakening in us all, for this very accurately describes what >occurred during a recent visit where most of us got together. On the >other hand, did you ever see the movie, "Stuart Saves His Family"? No, sorry. > Briefly, for my part, I became hurt a number of times at a family >member's behavior, over a two week period. Each time, I shared the hurt >with my hubby, and then dealt with it myself, or so I thought. But as >this happened a number of times, he became more upset at my distress and >wanted to intervene. I asked him to let me handle it my own way. Then one >morning it all came to a head. Something happened. I felt hurt. I left >the campsite where we had our trailers parked and went for a walk so I >could get my feelings back under control. When I came back, I discovered >that all heck had broken out, for my hubby had taken up my defense; a >fight ensued; several week later and a few days ago, I received an eight >page letter from my sister outlining all my selfish behavior, not only >during the visit, but back into the past. She said she wasn't speaking to >me. (Of course this is perhaps better than the last time this kind of >thing happened when I received a letter from her husband, another 8 >pager, calling me, in so many words and ways, Linda the Dark and the >Terrible, and that, as far as my family was concerned, I was dead. >Hmmm...of course I am preoccupied with this, and why am I sharing such >personal information with the group? Right now, my connection to you all >is helping me cope. Also, I go back and read some of my spiritual >resources and I find places where they say things like people will say >harsh words and abuse you, but stay the course...or...when people are >beginning to develop spiritually and come together, especially around a >holy person, their trips (vasanas) come out in full force. It seems there >is something at play that is supposed to bring the vasanas to light so >they can be transcended. Yes, you're right, and this may well be Kundalini at work in you. The first symptoms of active Kundalini are often quite physical and startling. But I think that for others, they are not so physical, so that it isn't easy to see what's happening. When active Kundalini begins, it begins to clear away the various hang-ups, old habitual patterns of reacting, early beliefs/decisions that may have been mistaken but still govern our behavior - in short, all the karmic stuff that forms blocks to the clear flow of Kundalini, blocks to our clear expression. It will indeed bring up old stuff from the past that needs handling and clearing away. You can think of it as a garden hose that's been lying around and is all full of dirt, debris, and even old caked mud. Then someone hooks it up and turns on the water. Maybe a little trickles through, but the way is mostly blocked. If you turn the water higher, that hose is likely to jerk and whip around. And the water begins to loosen up one hunk of mud and then another... They all have to be loosened up and washed away for the hose to work perfectly and easily. >For the past several days, I have gone through so many emotions, with >such an extreme pitch, that I feel like a wrung out dishrag. Yesterday, >most of the day, I was not all here. I felt so high, like my head was as >big as a truck, and my body felt alien. I had trouble walking and doing >things. I thought I was having a major dissociative episode, and perhaps >I was, but this quote you have shared gives me another way to think about >what is going on. I am throwing myself at the feet of the Divine now, >taking refuge, etc. Yes, it might well be active Kundalini! Sanella's book gives a whle chapter on the many and varied symptoms of all kinds. For a shorter list of Kundalini Signs and Symptoms, see El Collie's web page: http://members.aol.com/ckress/symptoms.html For more than you ever wanted to know about Kundalini, see Kurt Keutzer's wonderful FAQs: http://www-cad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/kundalini-faq.html http://www-cad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/kundalini-yoga.html http://www-cad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/shivom-tradition.html http://www-cad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/siddha-mahayoga.html Linda, I hope you can resolve the problems with your family. But not knowing them, I don't know whether that's possible. And I'll go so far as to say that for your spiritual growth, that isn't the most important thing. This is something out of the past that has happened before... you have a way of responding that is at least somewhat habitual. This is karmic stuff, getting locked into a chain of action and reaction. Perhaps it has come up again so that you can break the chain, break the pattern. The important work is not to be done with the family - it's to be done within yourself, clearing away this block to the free flow of energy. When it's all cleared, you won't respond the same way again, no matter what others do. And there will be no way for them to "hook" you into something. Eric Berne wrote about the script that we establish for our lives. It's set up in the early years of life, and then we're busy living out the script, living within set parameters. He was talking about the same thing, those early limiting beliefs and decisions that control us ever afterward unless we break clear. He said most people are like player pianos - the music is punched full of holes in patterns, and as you pump the piano, that punched music determines what music you can play. But, he said, when a person gets beyond the script and lives without it - when the old patterns are gone, and all those old blocks - then the person can make his own music. May you make your own music! Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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