Tony/ Emotional Kriyas

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, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

>

> Tony O'Clery [aoclery]

>

> , EBlackstead@c... wrote:

> > Dharma & Friends,

> >

> > I don't want to spoil the party, but Baba Muktananda as well as

his

> > devotees have been using, and writing about, emotional kriyas for

> > about 25 years before Cristina picked up a pen. Christina was a

>

>

> Namaste Eric,

>

> Where did Mucky-Nanda get it from? His own writings are so

> superficial...ONS...Tony.

> *************************************

> Namaste Sri Tonyji,

>

> I think you have made your point many many times regarding

where you stand

> with respect to certain gurus. We have not made any attempts to

censor you

> because censorship is not what this spiritual fellowship is about.

Please

> keep in mind that there are many in the Sangha who have great

respect for

> the Siddha tradition and who were/are either students or disciples

of Yogis

 

Namaste Harsha,

 

You are of course right and I shouldn't get too upset when people tout

their gurus, I did when I was still in the 'True believer mindset'.

However I wish someone had pointed out some obvious problems much

earlier.

 

I have nothing against the siddha tradition, only against people who

betray it because they cannot control their impulses and molest people

that's all.

 

I'm afraid my definition of Ahimsa is different from yours, yours if

you pardon me saying so is very politically correct.

 

To me people who tout cults and certain gurus are just as responsible

for the psychological damage and molestations that take place. Gurus

who have clouds over their heads like sai baba and muktananda, and the

evidence and testimonials is overwhelming, shouldn't be touted. For it

is obvious that many on these lists are pretty vulnerable.

 

So to me protection of the innocent is more important than pc.

 

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/SYDA-Yoga/leave.txt

 

If they didn't tout then I wouldn't shout!!!

 

I know I attract criticism but a lot of others get away with verbal

abuse and insults to my person, much more personal than I.

 

Your silence on this is deafening. I have broad shoulders, so I don't

care it is the double standard that makes me think.

 

If you are a medium of no censorship, then you should also be a medium

of preventing harm. Like vulnerable people falling into cults from

people touting on your list. This is blunt but in good faith, for you

are aware as I am, to the vulnerability of westerners particularly

Americans to this kind of manipulation. Conning Indians in India is

much more difficult.

 

ONS..........Tony.

[Guest guest]

 

Tony O'Clery [aoclery]

 

Namaste Harsha,

 

I'm afraid my definition of Ahimsa is different from yours, yours if

you pardon me saying so is very politically correct.

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Namaste Sri Tonyji,

 

I suggest that you form your own group "TonySangha" where your definition

of Ahimsa can get full play. You can advertise your group here for those who

wish to join you and hear your views. If you need help in forming TonySangha

on , we can provide some technical assistance and show you how to

do it. It is quite easy.

 

I am again asking you to review the list guidelines before

posting again.

 

Thank you.

 

Love to all

Harsha