Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Hello Eric - I am not being specific deliberately .. I am not one to exhort the traits of specific "gurus" who have been placed on pedestals by seekers and others on the Spiritual Path. There are many who I would call Master whom I have met (including the gentlemen you mentioned) .. but IMO, the greatest of all are those who live a normal life in as normal a setting as possible "chopping wood and carrying water". One doesn't find these people advertised - or advertising. One comes across these people as if by accident - even though there are no accidents - just a set of serendipitous circumstances. But, then, one has to be open and response-able to receive these opportunities when they are presented .. Now - if you want specifics .. There was a funny little Indin man to whom I was taken by a child -- he lived in a country village in India and knew more about me than I did - even before he met me .. spend days with him walking behind his plough whilst being introduced to the Vedas - passed on through an oral tradition .. his name doesn't matter and no-one could find the place without a guide ... (he also spoke perfect English and several other languages) Then there was the Taoist Master who taught me how to crawl and then walk .. I got a summons to a Roman Catholic Seminary in an inner Sydney Suburb where he filled in his days .. appearances can be deceiving - behind the dog collar was a man who had also handed back his last weapons in both the Japanese and Chinese martial arts ... Then there was the Tibetan Lama I met in a village in England who sent me down a chain of people which ended up .. and none of these people have written books, hold seminars or charge fees for their darshans .. Then there was the Sufi who befriended me as I was standing at a London bus stop .. turns out he had been watching me ever since I arrived in England from Australia 5 days earlier .. Perhaps the greatest of all was the Aboriginal Elder who just appeared out of the bush one day on a mountain climbing expedition .. But that is another story .. (and there are a lot more - some of which most would not believe - but I'm starting to write them anyway) However .. None of these people knew any bonds ... -- Christopher Wynter , EBlackstead@c... wrote: > Christopher & Friends, > > If you are going to talk to us about Masters, talk to us specifically > about Masters. Who are you talking about? Cut the meaningless and > demeaning generalizations and tell us just who you are talking about. > To put it very simply, If your idea of a Master is Muktananda, then > it isn't Rajneesh. If your idea of a Master is Rajneesh, then it > ceratainly isn't Muktananda. > The difference is vast, so stop pulling our collective leg. Who are > you talking about? > > yours in the bonds, > eric > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Christopher & friends, Fine stuff. Why don't you tell us your stories, and don't spare the details. this is how most of us learn. We don't need advice, at least most of us don't, We need connection to the source of advice. If you can provide it, why not? yours in the bonds, eric , lifestreams@b... wrote: > Hello Eric - > > I am not being specific deliberately .. > > I am not one to exhort the traits of specific "gurus" > who have been placed on pedestals by seekers and others > on the Spiritual Path. > > There are many who I would call Master whom I have met > (including the gentlemen you mentioned) .. > > but IMO, the greatest of all are those who live a normal > life in as normal a setting as possible "chopping wood > and carrying water". > > One doesn't find these people advertised - or advertising. > > One comes across these people as if by accident - even though > there are no accidents - just a set of serendipitous > circumstances. But, then, one has to be open and response-able > to receive these opportunities when they are presented .. > > Now - if you want specifics .. > > There was a funny little Indin man to whom I was taken by a > child -- he lived in a country village in India and knew more > about me than I did - even before he met me .. spend days with him > walking behind his plough whilst being introduced to the Vedas - > passed on through an oral tradition .. his name doesn't matter > and no-one could find the place without a guide ... (he also spoke > perfect English and several other languages) > > Then there was the Taoist Master who taught me how to crawl > and then walk .. I got a summons to a Roman Catholic Seminary > in an inner Sydney Suburb where he filled in his days .. > > appearances can be deceiving - behind the dog collar was a man > who had also handed back his last weapons in both the Japanese > and Chinese martial arts ... > > Then there was the Tibetan Lama I met in a village in England > who sent me down a chain of people which ended up .. > > and none of these people have written books, hold seminars or > charge fees for their darshans .. > > > Then there was the Sufi who befriended me as I was standing at > a London bus stop .. turns out he had been watching me ever > since I arrived in England from Australia 5 days earlier .. > > Perhaps the greatest of all was the Aboriginal Elder who just > appeared out of the bush one day on a mountain climbing expedition .. > > But that is another story .. (and there are a lot more - some of > which most would not believe - but I'm starting to write them > anyway) > > However .. > > None of these people knew any bonds ... > > -- Christopher Wynter > > > , EBlackstead@c... wrote: > > Christopher & Friends, > > > > If you are going to talk to us about Masters, talk to us > specifically > > about Masters. Who are you talking about? Cut the meaningless and > > demeaning generalizations and tell us just who you are talking > about. > > To put it very simply, If your idea of a Master is Muktananda, then > > it isn't Rajneesh. If your idea of a Master is Rajneesh, then it > > ceratainly isn't Muktananda. > > The difference is vast, so stop pulling our collective leg. Who are > > you talking about? > > > > yours in the bonds, > > eric > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Friends, Forgiveness, Oh great ones. I don't know why my posts are repeating themselves. I'm growing bored with myself, not to mention how many of you feel that one time around the track must be enough. Honestly annoyed, yours in the bonds, eric , EBlackstead@c... wrote: > Christopher & friends, > > Fine stuff. Why don't you tell us your stories, and don't spare the > details. this is how most of us learn. > > We don't need advice, at least most of us don't, We need connection > to the source of advice. If you can provide it, why not? > > yours in the bonds, > eric , lifestreams@b... wrote: > > Hello Eric - > > > > I am not being specific deliberately .. > > > > I am not one to exhort the traits of specific "gurus" > > who have been placed on pedestals by seekers and others > > on the Spiritual Path. > > > > There are many who I would call Master whom I have met > > (including the gentlemen you mentioned) .. > > > > but IMO, the greatest of all are those who live a normal > > life in as normal a setting as possible "chopping wood > > and carrying water". > > > > One doesn't find these people advertised - or advertising. > > > > One comes across these people as if by accident - even though > > there are no accidents - just a set of serendipitous > > circumstances. But, then, one has to be open and response-able > > to receive these opportunities when they are presented .. > > > > Now - if you want specifics .. > > > > There was a funny little Indin man to whom I was taken by a > > child -- he lived in a country village in India and knew more > > about me than I did - even before he met me .. spend days with him > > walking behind his plough whilst being introduced to the Vedas - > > passed on through an oral tradition .. his name doesn't matter > > and no-one could find the place without a guide ... (he also spoke > > perfect English and several other languages) > > > > Then there was the Taoist Master who taught me how to crawl > > and then walk .. I got a summons to a Roman Catholic Seminary > > in an inner Sydney Suburb where he filled in his days .. > > > > appearances can be deceiving - behind the dog collar was a man > > who had also handed back his last weapons in both the Japanese > > and Chinese martial arts ... > > > > Then there was the Tibetan Lama I met in a village in England > > who sent me down a chain of people which ended up .. > > > > and none of these people have written books, hold seminars or > > charge fees for their darshans .. > > > > > > Then there was the Sufi who befriended me as I was standing at > > a London bus stop .. turns out he had been watching me ever > > since I arrived in England from Australia 5 days earlier .. > > > > Perhaps the greatest of all was the Aboriginal Elder who just > > appeared out of the bush one day on a mountain climbing > expedition .. > > > > But that is another story .. (and there are a lot more - some of > > which most would not believe - but I'm starting to write them > > anyway) > > > > However .. > > > > None of these people knew any bonds ... > > > > -- Christopher Wynter > > > > > > , EBlackstead@c... wrote: > > > Christopher & Friends, > > > > > > If you are going to talk to us about Masters, talk to us > > specifically > > > about Masters. Who are you talking about? Cut the meaningless and > > > demeaning generalizations and tell us just who you are talking > > about. > > > To put it very simply, If your idea of a Master is Muktananda, > then > > > it isn't Rajneesh. If your idea of a Master is Rajneesh, then it > > > ceratainly isn't Muktananda. > > > The difference is vast, so stop pulling our collective leg. Who > are > > > you talking about? > > > > > > yours in the bonds, > > > eric > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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