RE: Correct perplexity

[Guest guest]

Dear Wim,

 

This whole business of

"love without an other"

sure isn't easy to get a

handle on! Not to mention

a trigger!

 

And Wim is expressing his perplexity

quite correctly ...

 

Blessed be,

Dan

 

 

--- Wim Borsboom <wim wrote:

> Dear Harsha,

>

> All my messages start with 'Dear' and end with

> 'Love...Wim'

> And in all my posts, I am always very aware that I

> mean it when I type that

> in.

>

> Dan's reaction to my original email PS to El and

> Paul was based on his

> 'incorrect' :-) understanding of my use of the word

> 'correct'. He responded

> a bit too quickly, and... in the corrective mode,

> nothing wrong with that, I

> do that too (Ah, us teacher types, will we ever

> refrain from that?). Dan was

> surely triggered by that word, no matter how

> (through sidestepping) he tried

> to wiggle himself out of it: shifting onus, shape

> shifting and target

> shifting. The clever Dan...I have seen him do that

> before with others, so

> this excellent example (A+) enabled me to put it

> under the loop (Wim's lens

> :-) It was about time...

>

> My remarks about his 'objectification' (usually done

> to women), his personal

> 'time and space' problems, his problematizing of the

> "other", stand, - and I

> trust that he takes it to heart as I take some of

> his suggestions to heart.

> (But only grudgingly, okay? :-)

>

> Whatever Dan wrote on 'perfect peace' was definitely

> about 'conditional

> peace' which is not lasting and perfect at all, as

> it always culminates in

> excommunication or abandonment and surrender.

>

> I wrote:

> > > That is why in love there is play

> > > between the lover and the beloved,

> > > the play of reciprocal mutuality.

>

> Why did Dan react to that paragraph when he also

> writes:

> > My response is quite simple:

> > Love, be loved, be love.

>

> I appreciate your very humorous 'elephant love'

> metaphor...

>

> (Now let me count the lines... oops more than twenty

> :-(

>

> Love, Harsha... Wim

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Dan,

 

Perplexed?

 

Who?

 

I?

You?

He?

She?

It?

We?

You?

They?

 

Questions...

 

All to no avail.

I laughed and laughed,

When pure wonder arose again, the questions and questioning just dissolved.

 

Love, Wim

Living in wonder...

 

 

 

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