Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 Ultimately, you know that 'you' will die, So, sooner or later, you have to Trust Love.......... I love this for all the right reasons. Yours philosophically, psychologically and spiritually unsound. eric. Dear James, You wrote: > Ultimately, you know that 'you' will die, > So, sooner or later, you have to Trust Love. Such a sentence may sound 'beautiful, but it is really quite sloppy and philosophically, psychologically and spiritually unsound... which is luckily 'good news' :-) Firstly: If the certainty-of-death (or the fear-of-death, or whatever the reason may be) will get you to love or "Trust Love," what kind of trust is that, what kind of love is that? Certainly not unconditional... Secondly: Death only occurs conceptually in the mind of a non-participating onlooker who is observing a process taking place with someone else usually called 'death'. Thirdly: Someone undergoing that process (the process that is usually called 'death') has a totally different perspective... Nobody can talk to anybody about 'death' from subjective experience... It would not be death, would it be? Fourthly: In fact, the ones who talk from experience, possibly because of a (usually called) Near Death Experience, they assure you that 'death' does not exist... They assure you in fact, that only love is real... and that is what causes them to "Trust Love" even more. So, James, luckily you've got it the wrong way around....I am so happy to say. Love, James... Wim PS. James Traverse wrote: > Ultimately, you know that 'you' will die, > So, sooner or later, you have to Trust Love. I once overheard a caterpillar saying to another one, while quoting James Traverse: "Ultimately, you know that 'you' will die..." The other caterpillar cut him off, not in the least alarmed... "I doubt that!" the caterpillar answered, "I always dream of us having wings one day, and that we will fly." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release 9/5/2001 ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! Click Here! ---~-> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <sentto-73173-22666-1002089856-ErcAshfrd=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) > Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINYB46-1003022208; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 02:22:08 -0400 Received: from n19. (n19. [216.115.96.69]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB47-1003022137; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 02:21:37 -0400 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-73173-22666-1002089856-ErcAshfrd=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) Received: from [10.1.1.224] by n19. with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2001 06:19:32 -0000 X-Sender: wim (AT) aurasphere (DOT) org X-Apparently- Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 3 Oct 2001 06:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 55950 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2001 06:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 3 Oct 2001 06:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.254.60.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2001 06:19:30 -0000 Received: from oemuser ([24.65.22.188]) by femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011003061929.LNQE674.femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com@oemuser> for <>; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:19:29 -0700 <> Message-ID: <GPEDKJCBACLOLJPIPKPLGEGKCCAA.wim (AT) aurasphere (DOT) org> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <GPEDKJCBACLOLJPIPKPLGEGKCCAA.wim (AT) aurasphere (DOT) org> "Wim Borsboom" <wim (AT) aurasphere (DOT) org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Un: <> Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:16:32 -0700 Re: Trust Love (for the wrong reasons) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14B98.46325360" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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