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Mike, I'm not Harsha, and I can't answer your question, but perhaps you would

appreciate this photograph of a "stone note too heavy to lift". Found this one

in a glacial field in the Kootenays. Perfect puzzle, eh?

 

warmly,

Nina

 

, MikeSuesserott@t... wrote:

> Dear Harsha,

 

<snip>

> Now here is another ponderous question for which your ultimate view would be

> needed. If God is all-powerful, can He create a stone too heavy to lift even

> for Himself?

>

> Bet you can't answer that one. :-))

>

> Take care,

>

> Michael Suesserott

 

 

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, MikeSuesserott@t... wrote:

> Hi Nina,

>

> thanks for sending the interesting stone. It is the first stone I

ever

> received in the mail - an auspicious omen, I am sure!

>

> Are you a geologist?

>

> Michael

 

You're quite welcome to the stone.

 

No, I am no geologist. :)

 

Are you a geologist? <g>

 

Nina

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Fabulous formula, Mike, though I'll have to take your word for it, as I have no

idea how to plot it. :)

 

I looked around for something to send you in return for your beating buncha

flowers formula and found a photograph capturing a scene that may be seen as a

beating buncha flowers.

 

Regarding my fields of interest, they are expanding and overlapping every day. I

hardly have time to enjoy them fully, so I grab what I can along the way.

 

A few of today's grabs: hunting for a good violin that fits my budget (and

keeping my eye out for that "free" cello that will soon fall from the sky),

dancing, playing with the greyhounds, enjoying the weather and people on the

street, plus a few more...

 

have a good day,

Nina

 

, MikeSuesserott@t... wrote:

> Dear Nina,

>

> no, I am no geologist either (just sending out those occasional

> philosophical stones). I studied pure mathematics and astronomy a longer

> time ago than I'd care to mention. In return for your stone I can send you

> this equation in polar coordinates:

>

> r = sin(t) + cos(2t) + sin(3t) , 0 <= t <= 2pi

>

> If you know how to plot it, you will see the equation describes a curve that

> looks like a bunch of flowers with a heart inside. :-)

>

> What are your fields of interest?

>

> Michael

 

 

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Dear Mike,

 

Amazingly small world.

 

Which Beethoven House are you referring to? I lived next door

to "one" (one that has long since been built over) behind the

Votivskirche. Schwarzspanierstrasse 6. I lived there, in fact, with

two black-haired Spaniards (plus the man who would become my

husband). Interesting, eh?

 

Your reminiscences are my own: music wafting through the air, the

peculiarities of that particular social structure, the buildings

where so-and-so did such and such (or not, as in the case of the

Akademie I attended and Hitler probably should have attended <g>)...

you did not, however, mention the nearly horizontal winter sun... the

sun that pierces in warm yellow blades to the center of one's soul.

Aaaaah...

 

If I had it scanned, I would attach a photograph I took of an old

king sitting one of the two benches at the top of the hill that pours

down into the Schloss Schoenbrunn'r... an old king with his arm

raised to the sun, feeding the pigeons as they fly by.

 

Is this off-topic? <g>

 

warmly,

Nina

 

, MikeSuesserott@t... wrote:

> Dear Nina,

>

> thanks for the "beating buncha flowers" picture. By stretching my

> imagination greatly I could discern the "flowers" there; now the

only

> question remaining is, whom are they beating? :-)

 

Only themselves..

> It is wonderful that you are playing these musical instruments. You

know, I

> grew up in Vienna, Austria, just across the street from where

Mozart spent

> the last few years of his all-too-short life. I attended the same

High

> School Franz Schubert had attended about two centuries ago, which

in turn is

> just a few blocks from a place where Beethoven lived for a while...

As you

> probably know, Beethoven was quite a quarrelsome fellow. It is said

he liked

> to throw chamber pots at his landlords when they dared to disturb

him for as

> mundane a reason as the payment of his rent; in consequence, he had

to

> change apartments frequently. That's why there are a lot

of "Beethoven

> Houses" in Vienna.

>

> Even today, music is all-important in this city. Vienna is one of

the few

> places I know of where the conductor of an orchestra (the Vienna

> Philharmonics) and the director of the opera house (Staatsoper)

have more

> prestige and political clout than even the mayor. More than once

have I seen

> new opera productions get front page coverage in the Vienna papers,

with the

> political news a distant second.

>

> Now don't hold this against me, but I confess I wanted to become an

opera

> singer, too. I had a good baritone voice, and took training in

classical

> music and singing for a while. Finally, I had to decide between

singing and

> mathematics, which I also loved, and, to the benefit of my future

audiences,

> gave up the singing.

>

> My apologies to you and to the list for burdening everyone with

these

> totally unimportant reminiscences, but still I love classical

music, and

> when I read about your violin and the cello-to-be, I guess I got

carried

> away.

>

> All the best,

>

> Michael

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Hi Michael,

 

You have a wonderful energy and nothing that you could post would be off

topic. There are very few things we object to here (other than bad taste in

humor), and even that is more or less tolerated. We just want people to

generally respect the spirit of Satsangh.

 

Are you a Mathematician Michael? My uncle came to the U.S. and finished

his Ph.D. in math back in the late 50s at the University of Illinois-Urbana

at the age of 23. My father followed in his footsteps as a graduate student

later on.

 

Harsha

 

 

MikeSuesserott [MikeSuesserott]

Sunday, October 07, 2001 3:38 PM

AW: Re: Mike .. stone not too heavy

 

 

Dear Nina,

 

small world indeed. Do I know Schwarzspanierstrasse! The math institute

where I studied is right around the corner at Waehringer Strasse.

Schwarzspanierstrasse also houses several university institutes, as well as

a student union building (a former church), noisy streetcars (in those days,

may now be replaced by a subway), and a jazz club situated in a basement

where I went occasionally with my friends and dates. There we would dance,

or just listen to the music. Or we would enjoy some discussion on the

purpose, if any, of human existence; and by one o'clock in the morning we

had usually come up with the perfect solution to the world's problems...

 

Your mention of the nearly horizontal winter sun - I can relate exactly to

what you mean. But do you also recall the first days of spring when an

indescribable exultant sweetness seems to fill the air from the Ring and

Burggarten to the meadows of Prater? Or do you remember Christmas time in

Vienna, the ubiquitous Maronibrater ovens where you get hot edible

chestnuts, the many churches with their display of the Manger and the

Nativity figurines, and, best of all, the festive, sacred joy that is almost

tangibly present in Vienna during the Holy Season?

 

And let us not forget the Viennese cafes where you can sit for hours on one

cup of coffee, and read, or watch the passers-by, and be alone and yet not

alone.

 

Is this off-topic? Well, the statutes say you have to mention the word

"samadhi" at least once in your post... But as Sri Harshaji is a benevolent

ruler of his kingdom, I guess we will get away with it. :-)

 

Here are a few links:

http://www.frugalfun.com/beethoven.html - scroll down to find info on

Schwarzspanierstrasse

 

http://viennamobile.com/pages/pages/cafecentral_jpeg.htm - a typical

Viennese Kaffeehaus and other pictures of Vienna, including the Gloriette

http://www.akg.asn-wien.ac.at/Nachlese/rundgang_kl.html - my old school,

opposite Konzerthaus

 

Best,

 

Michael

 

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----

> Von: Nina [murrkis]

> Gesendet: Friday, October 05, 2001 03:57

> An:

> Betreff: Re: Mike .. stone not too heavy

>

>

> Dear Mike,

>

> Amazingly small world.

>

> Which Beethoven House are you referring to? I lived next door

> to "one" (one that has long since been built over) behind the

> Votivskirche. Schwarzspanierstrasse 6. I lived there, in fact, with

> two black-haired Spaniards (plus the man who would become my

> husband). Interesting, eh?

>

> Your reminiscences are my own: music wafting through the air, the

> peculiarities of that particular social structure, the buildings

> where so-and-so did such and such (or not, as in the case of the

> Akademie I attended and Hitler probably should have attended <g>)...

> you did not, however, mention the nearly horizontal winter sun... the

> sun that pierces in warm yellow blades to the center of one's soul.

> Aaaaah...

>

> If I had it scanned, I would attach a photograph I took of an old

> king sitting one of the two benches at the top of the hill that pours

> down into the Schloss Schoenbrunn'r... an old king with his arm

> raised to the sun, feeding the pigeons as they fly by.

>

> Is this off-topic? <g>

>

> warmly,

> Nina

>

> , MikeSuesserott@t... wrote:

> > Dear Nina,

> >

> > thanks for the "beating buncha flowers" picture. By stretching my

> > imagination greatly I could discern the "flowers" there; now the

> only

> > question remaining is, whom are they beating? :-)

>

> Only themselves..

>

> > It is wonderful that you are playing these musical instruments. You

> know, I

> > grew up in Vienna, Austria, just across the street from where

> Mozart spent

> > the last few years of his all-too-short life. I attended the same

> High

> > School Franz Schubert had attended about two centuries ago, which

> in turn is

> > just a few blocks from a place where Beethoven lived for a while...

> As you

> > probably know, Beethoven was quite a quarrelsome fellow. It is said

> he liked

> > to throw chamber pots at his landlords when they dared to disturb

> him for as

> > mundane a reason as the payment of his rent; in consequence, he had

> to

> > change apartments frequently. That's why there are a lot

> of "Beethoven

> > Houses" in Vienna.

> >

> > Even today, music is all-important in this city. Vienna is one of

> the few

> > places I know of where the conductor of an orchestra (the Vienna

> > Philharmonics) and the director of the opera house (Staatsoper)

> have more

> > prestige and political clout than even the mayor. More than once

> have I seen

> > new opera productions get front page coverage in the Vienna papers,

> with the

> > political news a distant second.

> >

> > Now don't hold this against me, but I confess I wanted to become an

> opera

> > singer, too. I had a good baritone voice, and took training in

> classical

> > music and singing for a while. Finally, I had to decide between

> singing and

> > mathematics, which I also loved, and, to the benefit of my future

> audiences,

> > gave up the singing.

> >

> > My apologies to you and to the list for burdening everyone with

> these

> > totally unimportant reminiscences, but still I love classical

> music, and

> > when I read about your violin and the cello-to-be, I guess I got

> carried

> > away.

> >

> > All the best,

> >

> > Michael

>

>

>

>

> /join

>

>

>

>

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places,

> sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and

> exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves

> rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from

> Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come

> and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart

> Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A

> true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge,

> spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

> a.

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

 

 

 

/join

 

 

 

 

All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

 

 

 

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MikeSuesserott [MikeSuesserott]

 

Dear Harsha,

 

thanks for your kind words. It is this spirit of kindness as exemplified by

yourself and many of the contributors here which makes this list such a

great place.

 

How interesting that both your father and your uncle were mathematicians. I

am sure you must also be extremely gifted. But going after the ultimate

truth is even better.

 

Here are some karmic rules that I heard of: when a person is a very good

philosopher, a virtuous philosopher, he will be reborn as a mathematician

(so that he can at last prove what he is saying). But if he is an evil,

wicked philosopher, he has to be reborn in a lower form of life, as a

sociologist. :-)

 

Just kidding. Yes, I am a mathematician, too. Though I left the straight and

narrow path later to do some work in Computer Science, horribile dictu.

 

All the best,

 

Michael

**************************************

Michael, you are obvious very brilliant yourself. Your spirit and energy has

the quality of gentleness and warmth in which your friends must love basking

in. I love what you said about Philosophers being reborn as mathematicians

if they are really good and being born as sociologists if they are bad! :-).

 

My grandfather, uncle, and father were all into mathematics. I tried to get

into that but doing nothing (i.e. philosophy) always seemed more attractive.

 

The one thing I was relatively good at was in my hobby of chess which I took

up in high school and became a relatively strong player in about a year. We

have some good chess players on the list including David Hodges, whom I have

had the pleasure of playing as well.

 

Thank you for your presence Michael

We all seem like old friends

 

Love to all

Harsha

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