Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 I find that there is a bias against any guru who is not yet dead. And specially if that guru or thinker or mystic happens to be a westerner. I find this in most of the email groups. For example when I post something by Nisargadatta, nobody criticizes but when I post a very similar quotation from a westerner, somebody will always criticize. This bias also seems to be responsible for westerners changing their names to Hindu or Buddhist names! I am of Indian origin, yet I find modern western spiritual writers very refreshing, insightful, easier to understand and more effective than Nisargadatta or Ramana. [The writings of the ancient Sufis and the Buddhists are even more cryptic!] It is human nature that a genius is never acknowledged in his own time. He is only appreciated posthumously. Pardon me, but your egos are showing. ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Excellent remarks Jan... Realize though, in their time, each of those, now revered and oft-quoted masters, ran into the same difficulty as you are mentioning... so persist... don't let it change you and tempt you to wear funny garb under the guise of a nicky name... unless you find the garb real fun... For instance, I have been playing around with a dhoti... actually playing around IN a dhoti. What a fun and easy way to cloth oneself, especially when it is warm... I find it very comfy, especially when doing work around the house here... I found it depicted on Cambodian statues of Vishnu and Shiva (called something like "jong krabban"?) and felt so drawn to it, that I went out and bought a few meters of sheer muslin... orange and burgundy was all I could get... Mine is the shorter type, not the longer that you may still see in India... Well, who knows, now that I wear the garb, I might be taken more seriously... That'll be the day... Shall I dare and sent in a picture... :-) Love, Wim Jan Sultan [swork] Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:11 AM sworkalpha Ancient Indian Gurus v/s Modern Western Gurus I find that there is a bias against any guru who is not yet dead. And specially if that guru or thinker or mystic happens to be a westerner. I find this in most of the email groups. For example when I post something by Nisargadatta, nobody criticizes but when I post a very similar quotation from a westerner, somebody will always criticize. This bias also seems to be responsible for westerners changing their names to Hindu or Buddhist names! I am of Indian origin, yet I find modern western spiritual writers very refreshing, insightful, easier to understand and more effective than Nisargadatta or Ramana. [The writings of the ancient Sufis and the Buddhists are even more cryptic!] It is human nature that a genius is never acknowledged in his own time. He is only appreciated posthumously. Pardon me, but your egos are showing. ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release 9/5/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release 9/5/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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