RE: Terrorism ..? another perspective ..

[Guest guest]

Hi Christopher,

 

The list description of the Sangha is very clear and straight forward. This

is a spiritual satsangha. Politically oriented, inflammatory, and charged

posts are not appropriate here.

 

Please do not send such posts here in the future.

 

Thanks

Harsha

 

 

Christopher Wynter [lifestreams]

Friday, October 12, 2001 7:53 PM

Terrorism ..? another perspective ..

[Guest guest]

Well-written and clear, if a bit off-topic,

so thanks, Christopher.

 

The History Channel recently aired

an excellent piece in which the official

Warren Report about Kennedy's assassination

was shown to have more holes than

swiss cheese.

 

I think it was a German furher who said the point

isn't

to tell little lies, but to tell a big lie

very often and very loudly, so it's not

questioned.

 

So, look to whatever's being said the most

often, most definitively by those

with the loudest voice (and guns),

to know what's least likely to be true.

 

And, for those who want truth -- look to what's

spoken the least frequently and softest.

 

Softly spoken,

:-) Dan

 

--- Christopher Wynter <lifestreams

wrote:

> The following has come into my in-box .. and been

> confirmed through

>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,567426,00.html

>

> It offers another perspective .. and is forwarded

> without comment from me

> for your personal consideration - NOT necessarily

> for List Discussion

>

>

____________

> Remail of

>

> Former Special Forces Srgt. Stan Goff on september

> 11

>

> I'm a retired Special Forces Master Sergeant. That

> doesn't cut much for

> those who will only accept the opinions of former

> officers on military

> matters, since we enlisted swine are assumed to be

> incapable of grasping

> the nuances of doctrine.

>

> But I wasn't just in the army, I studied and taught

> military science and

> doctrine. I was a tactics instructor at the Jungle

> Operations Training

> Center in Panama, and I taught Military Science at

> West Point. And contrary to

> the popular image of what Special Forces does, SF's

> mission is to teach. We

> offer advice and assistance to foreign forces.

> That's everything from teaching

> marksmanship to a private to instructing a Battalion

> staff on how to

> coordinate effective air operations with a sister

> service.

>

> Based on that experience, and operations in eight

> designated conflict

> areas from Vietnam to Haiti, I have to say that the

> story we hear on the news

> and read in the newspapers is simply not believable.

> The most cursory glance

> at the verifiable facts, before, during, and after

> September 11th, does not

> support the official line or conform to the current

> actions of the

> United States government.

>

> But the official line only works if they can get

> everyone to accept its

> underlying premises. I'm not at all surprised about

> the Republican and

> Democratic Parties repeating these premises. They

> are simply two

> factions within a single dominant political class,

> and both are financed by the

> same economic powerhouses. My biggest

> disappointment, as someone who

> identifies himself with the left, has been the tacit

> acceptance of those premises

> by others on the left, sometimes naively, and

> sometimes to score some

> morality points. Those premises are twofold. One,

> there is the premise that what

> this de facto administration is doing now is a

> "response" to September 11th.

> Two, there is the premise that this attack on the

> World Trade Center and the

> Pentagon was done by people based in Afghanistan. In

> my opinion, neither

> of these is sound.

>

> To put this in perspective we have to go back not to

> September 11th, but

> to last year or further.

>

> A man of limited intelligence, George W. Bush, with

> nothing more than

> his name and the behind-the-scenes pressure of his

> powerful father-a former

> President, ex-director of Central Intelligence, and

> an oil man-is

> systematically constructed as a candidate, at

> tremendous cost. Across

> the country, subtle and not-so-subtle mechanisms are

> put into place to

> disfranchise a significant fraction of the

> Democrat's African-American

> voter base. This doesn't come out until Florida

> becomes a battleground for

> Electoral College votes, and the magnitude of the

> story has been

> suppressed by the corporate media to this day. In a

> decision so lacking in

> legitimacy, the Supreme Court will neither by-line

> the author of the decision nor

> allow the decision to ever be used as a precedent,

> Bush v. Gore awards the

> presidency of the United States to a man who loses

> the popular vote in

> Florida and loses the national popular vote by over

> 600,000.

>

> This de facto regime then organizes a very

> interesting cabinet. The Vice

> President is an oil executive and the former

> Secretary of Defense. The

> National Security Advisor is a director on the board

> of a transnational

> oil corporation and a Russia scholar. The Secretary

> of State is a man with

> no diplomatic experience whatsoever, and the former

> Chair of the Joint

> Chiefs of Staff. The other interesting appointment

> is Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary

> of Defense. Rumsfeld is the former CEO of Searle

> Pharmaceuticals. He and

> Cheney were featured as speakers at the May, 2000,

> Russian-American Business

> Leaders Forum. So the consistent currents in this

> cabinet are petroleum, the

> former Soviet Union, and the military.

>

> Based on the record of Daddy Bush, in all his

> guises, and the general

> trajectory of US foreign policy as far back as the

> Carter Administration, I

> feel I can reasonably conclude that Middle Eastern

> and South Asian

> fossil fuels are one of their major preoccupations.

> Not just because this

> klavern has some very direct financial interests in

> fossil fuel, but because

> they surely know that worldwide oil production is

> peaking as we speak, and

> will soon begin a permanent and precipitous decline

> that will completely

> change the character of civilization as we know it

> within 20 years. Even the

> left seems to be in deep denial about this, but the

> math is available. And,

> no, alternative energies and energy technologies

> will not save us. All the

> alternatives in the world can not begin to provide

> more than a tiny

> fraction of the energy base now provided by oil.

> This makes it more than a

> resource, and the drive to control what's left more

> than an economic competition.

>

> I further conclude that the economic colonization of

> the former Soviet

> Union is probably high on that agenda, and in fact

> has a powerful synergy with

> the issue of petroleum. Russia not only holds vast

> untapped resources that

> beckon to imperialism in crisis, it remains a

> credible military and nuclear

> challenger in the region.

>

> We have not one, but three members of the Bush de

> facto cabinet with

> military credentials, which makes the cabinet look

> quite a lot like a military

> General Staff. All this way before September 11th.

>

> Then there's the subject of the North Atlantic

> Treaty Organization. NATO

> might have expected consignment to the dustbin of

> the Cold War after the

> Eastern Bloc shattered in 1991. Peace dividend and

> all that. But it

> didn't.

> It expanded directly into the former states of the

> Eastern Bloc toward

> the former Soviet Union, and contributed significant

> forces to the

> devastation of Iraq-a key country in the world oil

> market, over which control

> translates into the ability to manipulate oil

> prices.

>

> NATO is a military formation, and the United States

> exerts the

> controlling interest in it. It seemed like a form

> without a function, but it

> remedied that pretty quickly.

>

> Then when Yugoslavia refused to play ball with the

> International

> Monetary Fund, the US and Germany began a systematic

> campaign of destabilization

> there, even using some of the veterans of

> Afghanistan in that campaign.

> NATO became the military arm of that agenda-the

> break-up of Yugoslavia into

> compliant statelets, the further containment of the

> former Soviet Union,

> and the future pipeline easement for Caspain Sea oil

> to

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