Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 Thank you Harsha for pointing to *This*, shining without any need for support ... And what exactly is *This*, which shines alone, leaning on nothing? That which is always what is, which can't be the same as those things that come and go, nor something different from those things. Those things seem to be, because it allowed itself to perceive "negation", which gave a space for "affirmations" (such as "I am", "I know this to be this") ... When it realizes itself, it is only being itself, and it never has been anything else. Thus, realization isn't a realization, nor an experience, for those can only be affirmed if "negation" has been allowed ... This is only that which never could be "not" ... so has never been affirmed. It allowed all things to appear, by allowing "not" to appear ... -- Dan --- Harsha <harsha-hkl wrote: > Hi Jan, > > Thanks for reminding of the similar symbolism in > Sufi and Rosicrucian > literature. The manifestations of Shakti are so > varied that it is difficult > to use the terms "abnormal" and "normal" awakening. > In the classical yogic > literature, Sahasharara is seen as joining of Shiva > and Shakti. Sri Ramana, > however, pointed out that through grace, Shakti > descends into the Heart > where Pure Consciousness Shines in Its Own Nature > without any support. > Speaking purely, the Self is the Self. The Self can > be realized at any > center or at any non-center, as there is Only the > Self, The Heart, that > supports all centers. > > Love to all > Harsha > > > jb [kvy9] > Saturday, October 13, 2001 6:20 AM > > Re: Jill/Concerns about > yoga > (KundaliniAwakenings > > > On 10/12/01 at 9:15 AM Harsha wrote: > > [...] > : It is possible that almost everyone goes through > both types of awakenings, > :normal and abnormal. > : > :Harsha > > In that case, in Buddhist literature (forgot which) > i came across > a description like "a diamond cutter that strikes > the head". > Not exactly at the top, but more to the right side.. > That event is quite painful but lasts only short... > Another "mark", depicted in Sufi and Rosicrucian > literature > as "the rose of the heart", is pointed at in the > biography of > Padma Sambhava as a bird of prey, inflicting a wound > in the chest > (the "on axis" heart chakra). This is not at all the > rising from > the base center, but a descending from the crown > first... Depicted > in the NT as "a dove landing on the head". > > After the "rose of the heart" opens, the other > chakras come into play - > the first "mark" being the piercing of the knot of > the heart (holy Grail > in Rosicrucian literature). That is followed by the > "solemnization" of the > Alchemical Wedding - after which Shakti "resides" in > the crown chakra, > until the proverbial snake swallows herself. > > As that is what classical literature calls "normal", > since having been a > member > of the K. list, i have to admit that "normal" > probably is rare > > Jan > > > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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