Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 How well said Harsha. Perfect wisdom love eric. It is often said that if one simply stops the seeking, the wanting, Realization will happen. It might be true if the seeking stops spontaneously and the mind consciously loses its identity into its Source. I wonder whether one can just give up seeking and wanting Realization. Probably one cannot give up wanting any "want" until the wanting has waned. One can certainly concentrate on wanting "total and complete blissful surrender." Perhaps that is helpful. The fundamental issue is the "wanting." Surrender happens when the wanting has waned or has been suspended, or one simply has become completely indifferent to all wanting. In other words, one has become "wanted out". There is a Gate to the Kingdom of Heaven. To approach this Gate, one must be a seeker. But the Gate does not open to seekers. And seeking cannot be given up by will or effort. It happens when you have been waiting and waiting and waiting. Waiting can be a form of doing also. Then it is a long wait. You might be doing anything. Meditation, Yoga, Pranayama, etc. These are all essentially forms of waiting. And waiting can be helpful. It tires you out. It is Grace that finally makes us so indifferent to any "seeking" or "wanting", that we forget what we had wanted, why we had wanted it, and what we had been waiting for. Here and Now the Primal Being Reveals It Self as Eternal, as the very Core of our existence, being Existence It Self. It is the Now-ness, the Here-ness, Ever new, the perpetual Silence of fullness and Self-fulfillment. To enter the Kingdom of Heaven one must be completely naked and bereft of all things. Seekers can approach the Gate but cannot enter. There is no path to this entrance because there is no where else to go. It is not to be found in the future in some other place. There is no future and there is no other place separate from Here and Now. Self can only be known in the Present because It Is ItSelf the Present. It Is the Total Presence. Love to all Harsha ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial Click Here! ---~-> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <sentto-73173-23320-1004275377-ErcAshfrd=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) > Received: from rly-xc03.mx.aol.com (rly-xc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.136]) by air-xc03.mail.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINXC31-1028082441; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:24:41 -0400 Received: from n7. (n7. [216.115.96.57]) by rly-xc03.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXC33-1028082418; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:24:18 -0400 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-73173-23320-1004275377-ErcAshfrd=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) Received: from [10.1.1.221] by n7. with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2001 13:22:57 -0000 X-Sender: Harsha-HKL (AT) home (DOT) com X-Apparently- Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 28 Oct 2001 13:22:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 45659 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 13:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 28 Oct 2001 13:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.254.60.20) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 13:22:55 -0000 Received: from cx463900b ([65.2.174.243]) by femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011028132255.KHPF5977.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx463900b>; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 05:22:55 -0800 <>, <NondualitySalon> Cc: <advaitin> Message-ID: <DAEMIACJNEBMJPKECLHICECBCLAA.Harsha-HKL (AT) home (DOT) com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-<DAEMIACJNEBMJPKECLHIGEGCCFAA.Harsha-HKL (AT) home (DOT) com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal "Harsha" <harsha-hkl (AT) home (DOT) com> X--Profile: harshaimtm MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Un: <> Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:26:56 -0500 Silent Heart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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