Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 Hi Bobby, Last night I had a dream. I can't remember the early parts, as is often true, but I think they concerned searching for something. What I do remember is sitting on the edge of a swimming pool, or pond, and suddenly seeing the water and deciding to allow my body to fall in. Wow! What a wonderful feeling, ripples of ecstasy, and then I thought "This is IT", and the thought seemed to pull me out of it and I woke up. Hmmm... I think it may be true that the mind wanting it is the thing that stops it. well, thanks for your posting. Love, Mark Dear Gabriele: For many years I read about 'not wanting' and 'desirelessness'. Last Friday night I was at the local hi school football game and 'had a moment'. I could stay in the moment if I did not want something, even the moment. For me that is what not wanting is. It is not the idea as a discipline but the crucial instruction to an errant mind to shut up. Love Bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 Dear Mark: Your dream reminded me of one a couple of years ago. ***I wanted to let go. I just wanted to let go. I wanted to feel it all. Then in the dream I screamed and screamed to the bottom of myself and I knew I had let go completely. I felt wonderful and it was the only time in my life I had felt that way.*** In a small Patisserie in the French Quarter the next day I told an old friend this and she said "you had a primal scream dream". It was a freeing moment even though it was a dream. Sleep well Bobby G. , "Mark W. Otter" <mark.otter@s...> wrote: > Hi Bobby, > > Last night I had a dream. I can't remember the early parts, as is often > true, but I think they concerned searching for something. What I do > remember is sitting on the edge of a swimming pool, or pond, and > suddenly seeing the water and deciding to allow my body to fall in. Wow! > What a wonderful feeling, ripples of ecstasy, and then I thought "This > is IT", and the thought seemed to pull me out of it and I woke up. > Hmmm... I think it may be true that the mind wanting it is the thing > that stops it. > > well, thanks for your posting. > > Love, Mark > > Dear Gabriele: > > For many years I read about 'not wanting' and > 'desirelessness'. > > Last Friday night I was at the local hi school football > game and 'had > a moment'. I could stay in the moment if I did not > want something, > even the moment. > > For me that is what not wanting is. It is not the idea > as a > discipline but the crucial instruction to an errant > mind to shut up. > > Love > Bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 .....in my experience of the ascetic way it is not a matter of wanting and not-wanting, it is more subtle than that....st. thomas acempis got close to it in his, imitation of christ....for me, it is as it was for him, it is a matter of desire, as such, but of inordinate and ordinate desire....we do not lust for a glass of water as we do for a glass of sacramental wine...what is proper in one situation is not proper for another....to lack lust in the connubial bower is , perhaps, an inordinate desire for physical death....this is what the lao tzu refers to when it commends temperance to us as both the agent and goal that brings us into harmony with the tao....ananda, sat, chit.....^^~~~~~ further up and further in, white wolfe - "Mark W. Otter" <mark.otter (AT) sunysb (DOT) edu> "harsha" <> Monday, October 29, 2001 1:53 AM re silent heart > Hi Bobby,> > Last night I had a dream. I can't remember the early parts, as is often> true, but I think they concerned searching for something. What I do> remember is sitting on the edge of a swimming pool, or pond, and> suddenly seeing the water and deciding to allow my body to fall in. Wow!> What a wonderful feeling, ripples of ecstasy, and then I thought "This> is IT", and the thought seemed to pull me out of it and I woke up.> Hmmm... I think it may be true that the mind wanting it is the thing> that stops it.> > well, thanks for your posting.> > Love, Mark> > Dear Gabriele:> > For many years I read about 'not wanting' and> 'desirelessness'.> > Last Friday night I was at the local hi school football> game and 'had> a moment'. I could stay in the moment if I did not> want something,> even the moment.> > For me that is what not wanting is. It is not the idea> as a> discipline but the crucial instruction to an errant> mind to shut up.> > Love> Bobby G.> > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck> Monitoring Service trial> http://us.click./Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/bpSolB/TM> ---~->> > /join> > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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