Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Dear Harsha, dear Janak Harsha, thank you very much for your answer. I did not ask you out of curiosity but only to find out, if you possibly could answer me some questions. I like your contribution "Silent Heart" very much because it describes something of my situation. The Gate does not open to seekers. But seeking cannot given up by own will or effort, you said. About ten years ago I have found Sri Ramana - after a long journey through different spiritual practices in Christianity and Zen Buddhism. The revelation was, that He is the truth because His life and teachings are total one and the same and His experience must be THAT, which is, and there was and is a increasing love to Him and attraction . So I tried my best in searching and practicing Self enquiry and surrender. Now I feel something new is happening and I don't know, what it means. I feel that trying and searching becomes more and more weaker. I am exhausted. I am tired. Searching and everything else seems also to be a game of the mind! Janakji, you wrote about spiritual practices: "Perhaps they serve only to entertain the mind and body awhile until awakening happens." And: "It seems ... that awakening comes .... from exhaustion. Even the seeking becomes too much..." More and more I found myself just sitting in front of Sri Ramana's picture and doing nothing - not searching, not meditating - just nothing. Sri Ramana always stressed the need of one's own effort practicing self-enquiry, but I feel exhausted. What shall I do? I am not able "doing" anything more. So I say to Him: "I can't do - so there is only your grace to help me out of that poor nonstop-mind-game!" What would you advise? In HIM Gabriele Dear Bobby, thank you for sharing your experience. That are that short ideas of the truth - that "moments", which teaches us so much. But at the moment you think it over, they have vanished. If one only could shut up the mind! The more you try the less you succeed. In HIM Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Dear Gabriele, One reason I do not care so much for generalized advice, such as "stop seeking" or "seek like you are afire" - (besides that they are contradictory and confusing)is that such advice does not allow for the timing of your own inner guidance for your path. There is always a good reason for why people are exactly where they are and doing whatever they are doing, and that may be trusted no matter how hidden and mysterious the actual reason itself. Just see how you have given your self guidance here. You are weary from a long journey and much seeking... and you are sitting in front of Ramana's picture and doing nothing. What better could anyone else advise for now? When tired, rest. So often we are like children asking are we there yet? and with this impatience resisting where we actually are for now. I know, because I am like this too. But actually, do we ever know how close or what step we are on? And is one any more important than another? The last cannot happen without the first, and your fate is as surely sealed upon taking the first as it may be on the last. In a sense, they are the same. With love, Glo .... - Gabriele Ebert Monday, October 29, 2001 3:09 AM Silent Heart Dear Harsha, dear Janak Harsha, thank you very much for your answer. I did not ask you out of curiosity but only to find out, if you possibly could answer me some questions. I like your contribution "Silent Heart" very much because it describes something of my situation. The Gate does not open to seekers. But seeking cannot given up by own will or effort, you said. About ten years ago I have found Sri Ramana - after a long journey through different spiritual practices in Christianity and Zen Buddhism. The revelation was, that He is the truth because His life and teachings are total one and the same and His experience must be THAT, which is, and there was and is a increasing love to Him and attraction . So I tried my best in searching and practicing Self enquiry and surrender. Now I feel something new is happening and I don't know, what it means. I feel that trying and searching becomes more and more weaker. I am exhausted. I am tired. Searching and everything else seems also to be a game of the mind! Janakji, you wrote about spiritual practices: "Perhaps they serve only to entertain the mind and body awhile until awakening happens." And: "It seems ... that awakening comes .... from exhaustion. Even the seeking becomes too much..." More and more I found myself just sitting in front of Sri Ramana's picture and doing nothing - not searching, not meditating - just nothing. Sri Ramana always stressed the need of one's own effort practicing self-enquiry, but I feel exhausted. What shall I do? I am not able "doing" anything more. So I say to Him: "I can't do - so there is only your grace to help me out of that poor nonstop-mind-game!" What would you advise? In HIM Gabriele Dear Bobby, thank you for sharing your experience. That are that short ideas of the truth - that "moments", which teaches us so much. But at the moment you think it over, they have vanished. If one only could shut up the mind! The more you try the less you succeed. In HIM Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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