Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Greetings Gabriele, If I may humbly, in the presence of Harsha who offered such a glorious story of Ramana Maharishi, offer the following: My Guru would say that "there is only 12 inches from the brain to the heart, and it is downhill all the way. Just let it drop." The Heart, the Supreme Self, is the seat of Grace. The love and grace that you feel when in the presence of Sri Ramana is your own Self, as is the presence itself. Just BE with this, relax your expectations, and give attention to the "I Am" sense. Allow this "I Am-ness" to be the answer in your self-enquiry. Yet also necessary is intent. There needs to be an urgency. So we have a "relaxed urgency"! :-) I think it was Ramakrishna who said: "Seek enlightenment as a man whose hair is on fire seeks water." I don't think that such a one is interested in much else except returning, _surrendering_, to his natural element of "non-fire-ness." That "non-fire-ness" for us is Pure Original Consciousness, the essential-Heart. The inexpressible "I Am", that Sublime Presence, is throughout the arising and falling of Consciousness. BE with That, and know yourself as That. All Is Consciousness. All is Grace. All love, ~ Janak. , "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Dear Harsha, dear Janak > Harsha, thank you very much for your answer. I did not ask you out of curiosity but only to find out, if you possibly could answer me some questions. > I like your contribution "Silent Heart" very much because it describes something of my situation. > The Gate does not open to seekers. But seeking cannot given up by own will or effort, you said. > > About ten years ago I have found Sri Ramana - after a long journey through different spiritual practices in Christianity and Zen Buddhism. The revelation was, that He is the truth because His life and teachings are total one and the same and His experience must be THAT, which is, and there was and is a increasing love to Him and attraction . So I tried my best in searching and practicing Self enquiry and surrender. > Now I feel something new is happening and I don't know, what it means. I feel that trying and searching becomes more and more weaker. I am exhausted. I am tired. Searching and everything else seems also to be a game of the mind! > > Janakji, you wrote about spiritual practices: "Perhaps they serve only to entertain the mind and body awhile until awakening happens." And: "It seems ... that awakening comes .... from exhaustion. Even the seeking becomes too much..." > > More and more I found myself just sitting in front of Sri Ramana's picture and doing nothing - not searching, not meditating - just nothing. > > Sri Ramana always stressed the need of one's own effort practicing self-enquiry, but I feel exhausted. What shall I do? I am not able "doing" anything more. So I say to Him: "I can't do - so there is only your grace to help me out of that poor nonstop-mind-game!" > > What would you advise? > > In HIM Gabriele > > > Dear Bobby, > thank you for sharing your experience. That are that short ideas of the truth - that "moments", which teaches us so much. But at the moment you think it over, they have vanished. If one only could shut up the mind! The more you try the less you succeed. > In HIM Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Great thanks to you all, Harsha, Janak and Gloria for your statements. You have offered so much help and understanding and a beautiful Ramana-story. Going the way back and down to the Heart - that is good, very good. Gabriele - janakji (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com Monday, October 29, 2001 6:19 PM To Gabriele's Heart Greetings Gabriele, If I may humbly, in the presence of Harsha who offered such a glorious story of Ramana Maharishi, offer the following:My Guru would say that "there is only 12 inches from the brain to the heart, and it is downhill all the way. Just let it drop." The Heart, the Supreme Self, is the seat of Grace. The love and grace that you feel when in the presence of Sri Ramana is your own Self, as is the presence itself. Just BE with this, relax your expectations, and give attention to the "I Am" sense. Allow this "I Am-ness" to be the answer in your self-enquiry. Yet also necessary is intent. There needs to be an urgency. So we have a "relaxed urgency"! :-) I think it was Ramakrishna who said: "Seek enlightenment as a man whose hair is on fire seeks water." I don't think that such a one is interested in much else except returning, _surrendering_, to his natural element of "non-fire-ness."That "non-fire-ness" for us is Pure Original Consciousness, the essential-Heart. The inexpressible "I Am", that Sublime Presence, is throughout the arising and falling of Consciousness. BE with That, and know yourself as That. All Is Consciousness. All is Grace.All love,~ Janak.--- In , "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote:> Dear Harsha, dear Janak> Harsha, thank you very much for your answer. I did not ask you out of curiosity but only to find out, if you possibly could answer me some questions.> I like your contribution "Silent Heart" very much because it describes something of my situation. > The Gate does not open to seekers. But seeking cannot given up by own will or effort, you said.> > About ten years ago I have found Sri Ramana - after a long journey through different spiritual practices in Christianity and Zen Buddhism. The revelation was, that He is the truth because His life and teachings are total one and the same and His experience must be THAT, which is, and there was and is a increasing love to Him and attraction . So I tried my best in searching and practicing Self enquiry and surrender. > Now I feel something new is happening and I don't know, what it means. I feel that trying and searching becomes more and more weaker. I am exhausted. I am tired. Searching and everything else seems also to be a game of the mind!> > Janakji, you wrote about spiritual practices: "Perhaps they serve only to entertain the mind and body awhile until awakening happens." And: "It seems ... that awakening comes .... from exhaustion. Even the seeking becomes too much..."> > More and more I found myself just sitting in front of Sri Ramana's picture and doing nothing - not searching, not meditating - just nothing.> > Sri Ramana always stressed the need of one's own effort practicing self-enquiry, but I feel exhausted. What shall I do? I am not able "doing" anything more. So I say to Him: "I can't do - so there is only your grace to help me out of that poor nonstop-mind-game!" > > What would you advise?> > In HIM Gabriele> > > Dear Bobby,> thank you for sharing your experience. That are that short ideas of the truth - that "moments", which teaches us so much. But at the moment you think it over, they have vanished. If one only could shut up the mind! The more you try the less you succeed. > In HIM Gabriele/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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