Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Thanks for posting this again Gloria. Many of Sri Ramana's devotees were very brilliant and talented scholars and poets and yogis. Some like Ganapati Muni were true geniuses and literally sparkled like stars in so many amazing ways and have provided such service to humanity. The rest of us, like Krishna Bhikshu, just bask in the presence, not knowing where else to go, because being where we are with Bhagavan seems enough. Many devotees were simple people who did not know so much but felt they needed to be there with Bhagavan or to be around him. Back in the early years Sri Ramana had only a few devotees. One time a man and his wife with their children approached the attendant to ask if they could have Bhagavan's Darshan. The attendant was puzzled since Bhagavan was sitting close by. The attendant told the the family that there is no restriction for anyone. The husband explained that the family was of shudra caste (untouchables) and therefore wanted permission first (Bhagavan was born as a Brahmin and was called "Brahmna Swami" by some in the beginning). The attendant turned to ask Bhagavan but then quickly realized then even asking such a question of Bhagavan would be an insult to the family. He told the family that Bhagavan does not make distinctions and it was fine to go ahead. The family then approached Bhagavan. The attendant recalls that Bhagavan gazed at the family with such kindness, tenderness, and grace that even the kings and princes and great yogis who visited there would not have received. This is why TKS said, "We did not go to him for profit, but because away from him there was no life for us." Love to all Harsha Gloria Lee [glee (AT) citlink (DOT) net]Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:36 PMTo: HS Fw:Krishna Bhikshu Here's another oldie, but goodie. - Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) NondualitySalon ; Monday, August 16, 1999 4:41 PM [NondualitySalon] Krishna Bhikshu "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar (AT) bryant (DOT) edu>Krishna Bhikshu (speaking of the Sage of Arunachala)I asked Bhagavan: "Bhagavan, kindly show me a good path.What are youdoing now ?" he asked. "When I am in the right mood, I sing the songs ofTyagaraja and I recite the holy Gayatri. I was also doing some pranayama butthese breathing exercises have upset my health.You had better stop them.But never give up the Advaita Dristhi (non dual vision)." At that time Icould not understand his words.I went to Benares for a month, returned to Pondicherry and spent five monthsthere. Wherever I would go people would find some fault or other with me:"You are too weak, not fit for yoga, you do not know how to concentrate, youcannot hold your breath, you are unable to fast, you need too much sleep,you cannot keep vigils, you must surrender all your property . . ." OnlyBhagavan asked for nothing, found fault with nothing. As a matter of truth,there was nothing in me that entitled me to his grace. But it did not matterwith Bhagavan. He wanted me, not my goodness. It was enough to tell him "Iam yours", and for him to do the rest. In that way he was unsurpassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 > (snip) > The family then approached Bhagavan. The attendant > recalls that Bhagavan > gazed at the family with such kindness, tenderness, > and grace that even the > kings and princes and great yogis who visited there > would not have received. > This is why TKS said, "We did not go to him for > profit, but because away > from him there was no life for us." > > Love to all > > Harsha I did not go to him for profit. I did not go to him. There is no such place as "away from him." What is here is more than enough, more than everything. Upon whom does this Life depend? -- Dan Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 > (snip) > The family then approached Bhagavan. The attendant> recalls that Bhagavan> gazed at the family with such kindness, tenderness,> and grace that even the> kings and princes and great yogis who visited there> would not have received.> This is why TKS said, "We did not go to him for> profit, but because away> from him there was no life for us."> > Love to all> > HarshaI did not go to him for profit.I did not go to him.There is no such place as "away from him."What is here is more than enough, more than everything.Upon whom does this Life depend?-- Dan Dear Dan, Of course it depends on no one in particular, and no where in all the stories of Ramana is there any reference to him encouraging any such dependence on him - ultimately. However, out of compassion, he modeled and exampled the truth with such love, until people were able to find it in themselves. This is where he always directed them to look. I saw something in a video of Thich Nhat Hanh that made me want to go see him and to take up Buddhism. Presence is powerful because so much more is conveyed wordlessly. Just as I cannot put into words what I really "hear" in music. I recently read of some Zen scholars who went to visit D. T. Suziki in his old age. They were surprised to find him performing ordinary rituals before the Buddha statue, and said, "But what about all you wrote about killing the Buddha?" He just smiled and said, "Oh, you can kill the Buddha, I will worship him." Give a poor bhakti a break, once in a while... Love, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 --- Gloria Lee <glee wrote: > > > > (snip) > > The family then approached Bhagavan. The attendant > > recalls that Bhagavan > > gazed at the family with such kindness, > tenderness, > > and grace that even the > > kings and princes and great yogis who visited > there > > would not have received. > > This is why TKS said, "We did not go to him for > > profit, but because away > > from him there was no life for us." > > > > Love to all > > > > Harsha > > I did not go to him for profit. > I did not go to him. > There is no such place as "away from him." > > What is here is more than enough, > more than everything. > > Upon whom does this Life depend? > > -- Dan > > Dear Dan, > > Of course it depends on no one in particular, and no > where in all the stories of Ramana is there any > reference to him encouraging any such dependence on > him - ultimately. However, out of compassion, he > modeled and exampled the truth with such love, until > people were able to find it in themselves. This is > where he always directed them to look. > > I saw something in a video of Thich Nhat Hanh that > made me want to go see him and to take up Buddhism. > Presence is powerful because so much more is > conveyed wordlessly. Just as I cannot put into words > what I really "hear" in music. > > I recently read of some Zen scholars who went to > visit D. T. Suziki in his old age. They were > surprised to find him performing ordinary rituals > before the Buddha statue, and said, "But what about > all you wrote about killing the Buddha?" He just > smiled and said, "Oh, you can kill the Buddha, I > will worship him." > > Give a poor bhakti a break, once in a while... > Love, > Glo Dear Glo -- I'm just speaking for myself. I don't see anywhere that I criticized a poor bhakti or said anything one way or the other about people who like stories about folks with saintly gleams in their eyes. If someone wants to be devoted, someone or something will sure enough show up, toward which devotion can be expressed. No big deal, and no problem :-) What's conveyed wordlessly is conveyed wordlessly. It's not being conveyed from someone to someone else. There's no space to cross, no distance at all. By the way, that story about D.T. Suzuki sounds like a reworking of a far older story. Funny how stories get reworked. I guess there's nothing new under the sun, after all :-) This old world just keeps spinning round and round ... Love, Dan Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 > > I did not go to him for profit.> I did not go to him.> There is no such place as "away from him."> > What is here is more than enough,> more than everything.> > Upon whom does this Life depend?> > -- Dan> Here, Dan Love, Glo Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. - Lao Tzu Tao Te Ching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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