Repost/Krishnamurti

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Bruce Morgen

[editor (AT) juno (DOT) com]Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:14 AM

Question: I am contaminated by society. How am I to be free of that

contamination? K: Surely, the question is not how to be free of

that contamination, for then you merely create another conflict,

another problem. The 'I' is not contaminated by society; it is the

contamination. The 'I' is a thing that has been put together through

conflict, through envy, through ambition and the desire for power,

through agony, guilt, despair. And is it possible for that 'I' to

dissolve itself without conflict? These are not theoretical or

theological questions. If one is at all serious about understanding

oneself, one sees that any effort to dissolve the 'I' has a motive;

it is the result of a reaction, and therefore still part of the 'I'.

So what is to be done? One can see the fact and not do a thing about

it. The fact is that every thought, every feeling, is the result of

society with its ambitions, its envies, its greeds; and this whole

process is the 'I'. The very act of seeing this process in its

entirety is its dissipation; you do not have to make an effort to

dissipate it. To see something poisonous is to leave it alone. J.

Krishnamurti, June 10, 1962, London, England

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This one always brings to

mind a phrase often heard in

Christian circles: "In this

world but not of it." When

one perceives the "poison,"

one can be fully immersed

without partaking of it.

 

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:44:19 -0500 "Harsha" <harsha-hkl (AT) home (DOT) com> writes:

Bruce Morgen

[editor (AT) juno (DOT) com]Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:14 AM

Question: I am contaminated by society. How am I to be free of that

contamination? K: Surely, the question is not how to be free of

that contamination, for then you merely create another conflict,

another problem. The 'I' is not contaminated by society; it is the

contamination. The 'I' is a thing that has been put together through

conflict, through envy, through ambition and the desire for power,

through agony, guilt, despair. And is it possible for that 'I' to

dissolve itself without conflict? These are not theoretical or

theological questions. If one is at all serious about understanding

oneself, one sees that any effort to dissolve the 'I' has a motive;

it is the result of a reaction, and therefore still part of the 'I'.

So what is to be done? One can see the fact and not do a thing about

it. The fact is that every thought, every feeling, is the result of

society with its ambitions, its envies, its greeds; and this whole

process is the 'I'. The very act of seeing this process in its

entirety is its dissipation; you do not have to make an effort to

dissipate it. To see something poisonous is to leave it alone. J.

Krishnamurti, June 10, 1962, London,

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