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Hi Amanda;

 

Previously:

> > I bought a David Paradise a few years ago. It uses light, sound,

> and

> > electrical pulses to create desired brainwaves in each hemisphere

> of

> > the brain. Inducing a high beta into the right side and a theta

> into

> > the left produced a slow thought process with a high visual and

> > holistic sensory input. It performed lots of cute tricks.

> >

> > It also taught me to fight through the desire to go to sleep when

> > theta waves increased which had been a problem for me in

> meditation.

> > After practising self enquiry for a while the little machine no

> > longer worked. In other words, when the 'I am' is steady in the

> mind

> > the induction pulses do not affect me.

>

>

> Thanks for telling me of that observation. It's interesting to hear

> that the theta induction didn't work after a period of self inquiry.

 

bg- Actually none of the inductions worked during self inquiry was what I

meant to say. What I assumed from this was that the brainwave distribution

was stable and maintained in some way. I have included a diagram of this

distribution in the attachment.

 

It is a drawing I did showing the brainwave distribution in an awakened mind.

The top curve outward around the figure is beta, the next alpha, then theta

and the last curve is delta which is the sleep bw just barely curves out.

This information comes from a book by Anna Wise "The High-Performance Mind".

 

She uses a 'mind mirror' machine which registers the relative proportions of

the various bw's.

Reading her book one is inclined to believe she is on to something. Many

diagrams of various phases of meditations taken from Zen monks and others are

shown. The beta ( indicating sensory activity) is active in the awakened

mind but in some of the states shown in the book it is not. The totally

enlightened diagram of brainwave patterns is a circle.

Kinda like a lightbulb!

> It could be taken to mean that the steady I am is something which is

> beyond theta activity in the mind, but it could also be taken to mean

> that a theta or similar state is already present, therefore induction

> has no effect. Hard to say which one is correct based on report only,

> the only conclusive evidence would be direct EEG measuring, which

> would have been interesting to do.

> Thanks again for the comments !

>

> Love,

> A.

 

Good Luck

Bobby G.

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Hi Bobby G.

 

 

 

Thanks for showing me the illustration ! It's very interesting and

clearly shows what you describe in words. The lightbulb shape is

beautiful looking. :)

 

I would like to check out the book by Anna Wise to read her work on

more detail and see what she did.

 

Did Anna Wise measure EEGs directly or just with the "mind mirror

machine" that you mention ? Did she ever measure activity during non

meditative waking state to find the base activity as well ?

 

Thanks again for showing me. :)

 

Direct measurements is probably a pipe dream for me, but I think I

can live with that.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

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, mumblecat@a... wrote:

>

>

> Hi Bobby G.

>

>

>

> Thanks for showing me the illustration ! It's very interesting and

> clearly shows what you describe in words. The lightbulb shape is

> beautiful looking. :)

>

> I would like to check out the book by Anna Wise to read her work on

> more detail and see what she did.

>

> Did Anna Wise measure EEGs directly or just with the "mind mirror

> machine" that you mention ? Did she ever measure activity during

non

> meditative waking state to find the base activity as well ?

>

> Thanks again for showing me. :)

>

> Direct measurements is probably a pipe dream for me, but I think I

> can live with that.

>

>

> Love,

>

> Amanda.

 

Dear Amanda:

 

I looked for info in her book about her technique but did not see it

right away so I pulled another book, Michael Hutchison's "Mega

Brain". He describes a lot of different machines that he

experimented with.

I will para phrase. Hutchison said the mind mirror is a modified

EEG. He was hooked up by the operator ataching electrodes to his

right and left occipital lobes. There were fourteen lines of light

for the right hemishpere and fourteen for the left representing

ascending hertz from .75 to 38 hertz. When he framed questions to

ask while hooked up he could see the high beta activity dominate over

the other lights and when he relaxed totally he could see the theta

activity dominate.

The lights lit up from the center for low intensity at each frequency

and added lights outward if that intensity increased. The more beta

the more lights lit up, etc.

Each frequency fluctuated and formed an overall wavy line for each

hemisphere at the outside limit of the lights.

 

After a while he saw the pattern I drew in the diagram. The operator

said "that's it" and it disapperared.

He went on to mention that traditional EEG's can do lots of things

that the Mind mirror can't do.

I suppose since you can watch the lights which indicate the brain

state that prior monitoring is a moot point.

As I understand it Anna Wise has 'clients ' that she helps with

meditation.

Hutchison tries to be skeptical but he said he keeps a David Paradise

Brainwave entrainment machine on his bedside table to induce beta in

the morning to replace coffee.

I really like coffee myself.

I think I will look to see if there are any websites on possibly

getting hooked up with Miss Wise and scoring a session on the Mind

Mirror.

Later

Bobby G.

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