Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Just a little note . Robert Ryder who affectionately is known as Gator has a daily and because of computer problems he has lost his list for now. I know some here are on the list get his daily so if you would please email him at Skyeryder to let him know your email address, he would like to put everyone back on. If you do not get his daily well friends you are missing something quite wonderful. many hugs and joy love Jeannie Mira could you please put me back on Perceptions of Life thanks big hugs to all. - <> <> Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:07 AM Digest Number 1475 /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. ------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Witness "jb" <kvy9 2. Closer Mace Mealer <mmealer 3. Witness bgbbyg 4. RE: Greetings Friends from Wim and Lynette {note for harsha at the end) "Harsha" <harsha-hkl 5. Mike/ Last words of the Buddha "Harsha" <harsha-hkl 6. Maharshi- your Self is intimate to you "viorica weissman" <viorica 7. Jan, speaking of parrots "Gloria Lee" <glee 8. Ramana Maharshi : Karma - 1 viorica weissman <viorica 9. Re: Jan, speaking of parrots "diana" <diana 10. Re: Jan, speaking of parrots/Glo "jb" <kvy9 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:23:28 +0000 "jb" <kvy9 Witness kissed compulsiveness it can't affect the witness nor can hormone's bliss Jan [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:33:39 -0600 Mace Mealer <mmealer Closer .. When a cockroach engenders the same response as a puppy. When eating chicken soup you feel the pain of the chicken. When you realize that any tree that shelters all who sit beneath it, has a perspective and and suchness beyond comprehension, .. You are getting closer. .. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:46:06 -0000 bgbbyg Witness hi Everybody: "Buddhi, as the sum total of the inner organs, in contact with the reflected consciousness has two aspects. One is called egoity and the other mind." Shankara's "Viveka Chudamani"- Sri Ramana Maharshi The inner organs are the parts of the brain that process stimuli into an organized world view. Smells, sounds, tastes, sights, and tactile sensations must be perceived in context with experience. The 'world' that forms around sensory input is the sum total of the inner organs. Every experience is catalogued according to this world view. Logic, intuition, imagination, dreaming, and memory while pure in themselves must rely on this world view for information to process. The two aspects of the combination of reflected consciousness and the sum total of the inner organs as stated above are egoity and mind. In looking at the patterns made by the relative proportions of the four different brainwaves one sees mind as the ripples that cross the otherwise smooth and perfectly reflected consciousness. These brainwaves can be controlled by the ego. Egoity, while existing as a reflection, assumes the mantle of the real Self by its command of the mind. The conclusion is that the physical world is non-existent as an understandable, independent entity without the mind which arises simultaneously with the ego. Hence, the disappearance of the world of thought and form with the disappearance of the ego. Viveka Chudamani- ...."The contact establishing identity (sameness, [bg]) between the ego and the reflected consciousness, is of three kinds. 1. The identification of the ego with the reflected Consciousness is natural or innate. 2. The identification of the ego with the body is due to past karma. 3. The identification of the ego with the witness is due to ignorance.... ....The individual with his reflected light of Consciousness is the subtle body existing in close proximity with the Self that is the vyavaharika (The empirical Self). This individual character of the empirical Self appears in the witness or sakshi also through false superimpostion. But on the extinction of the veiling power (tamas), the distinction between witness and the empirical Self becomes clear; and the superimposition also drops away." Love Bobby G. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:28:51 -0500 "Harsha" <harsha-hkl RE: Greetings Friends from Wim and Lynette {note for harsha at the end) Lynette [Lynette] With Love, Lynette PS...Harsha, Wim and I and my husband Rick hope to come to Denver in June, but I do need a date if you have one... Can you please email me personally with this information so I dont "miss" it in the shuffle... Thank you so much, and Love to all of you...Lynette ******************************* Hi Lynette, Like others, I enjoyed the warmth, friendship, and the fellowship of the first retreat at the Providence Zen Center very much. Amazing, when we look back, is it not? If we have a retreat in Denver, and there is a very good chance we will, it will be in the August 9-14 range. Those are the dates for my academy meetings. Hope all is well Love to all Harsha ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:31:43 -0500 "Harsha" <harsha-hkl Mike/ Last words of the Buddha Thanks for your warm and kind words Mike and thanks for the advice! :-). Love Harsha MikeSuesserott [MikeSuesserott] Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:15 AM Last words of the Buddha Dear Harsha, thanks for the information about the Buddha's last words. I am so sorry to hear that you are going through a stressful time in your life. If I may make a totally immature and irresponsible suggestion, why not get yourself a video of some old comedy such as The Munster Family or I Love Lucy or the like, and enjoy some innocent fun for a little while. I am being serious about the importance of having fun! To quote Thomas Sydenham, a famous 17th-century medicus, "the arrival of one good clown in a village has more healing power than the arrival of thirty donkeys laden with medicines." And in one of his books, Dr. Raymond Moody tells about a cancer patient who watched light-hearted comedies for many hours a day, with the result that he was free of that cancer after a few weeks' time. As regards a contribution to the HS magazine, I feel honored that you should ask me (or probably you are just desperate!). Let me think about this for a little while. Is there a deadline? All the best, Michael ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:40:15 +0200 "viorica weissman" <viorica Maharshi- your Self is intimate to you Q : Yoga means union , but the union of what with what? Maharshi: Exactly . Yoga implies prior division , and subsequent union of one thing with another . Who is to be united with whom ? In yoga , you are the seeker , seeking union with something that is apart from you. But your Self is intimate to you and you are aware of it . Seek it and BE it. Then it will expand as Infinity and there will be no question of yoga etc. To whom is viyoga ? (separation) Find it. from = Conscious Immortality = [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:03:55 -0500 "Gloria Lee" <glee Jan, speaking of parrots A man goes into a pet shop to buy a parrot. The shop owner points to three identical looking parrots on a perch and says, "the parrot on the left costs $5,000.00." "Why does the parrot cost so much?" asks the man. The owner says, "Well the parrot knows how to use a computer." The man then asks about the next parrot and is told that this one costs $15,000 because it can do everything the other parrot can do plus it knows how to use the UNIX operating system. Naturally, the increasingly startled man asks about the third parrot to be told that it costs $30,000. Needless to say this begs the question, "What can it do?" To which the owner replies, "To be honest I have never seen him do a thing, but the other two call him boss!" [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:18:09 -0800 (PST) viorica weissman <viorica Ramana Maharshi : Karma - 1 The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi Karma and Destiny ================= Sri Ramana Maharshi Edited by David Godman Preamble By David Godman [source - http://www.hinduism.co.za ] The theory of Karma is common to many oriental religions. In its most popular form it states that there is a universal accounting system in which each individual must experience the consequences of all his actions (Karmas); good actions bring good results and bad actions inevitably result in suffering to the one who does them. The theory also states that the consequences of actions (also known as Karmas) need not necessarily be experienced in the present life, they can be carried over into future lives. Because of this, several sub-divisions of Karma have been postulated. The following classification, which was used by Sri Ramana Maharshi, is common to many Hindu schools of thought. Sanchita Karma. The store of Karmic debts accumulated from previous births. Prarabdha Karma. That part of one's Sanchita Karma which must be worked out in the present life. Because the law of Karma implies determinism in human activities, Prarabdha is often translated as destiny. Agami Karma. New Karma accumulated in the present lifetime which is carried forward into future lives. Sri Ramana Maharshi accepted the validity of the laws of Karma but said that they were only applicable as long as a person imagined that he was separate from the Self. At this level (the level of the ajnani or the ignorant), he said that individuals will pass through a series of pre-ordained activities and experiences, all of which are the consequences of previous acts and thoughts. He occasionally even said that every act and experience in a person's life is determined at birth and that the only freedom one has is to realise that there is no one acting and no one experiencing. However, once one realises the Self there is no one left to experience the consequences of actions and so the whole structure of Karmic laws then becomes redundant. Sri Ramana regarded the law of Karma as a manifestation of God's will. He said that prior to Self-realisation there is a personal God, Iswara, who controls each person's destiny. It is Iswara who has ordained that everyone must suffer the consequences of his actions and it is Iswara who selects the sequences of activities that each person must undergo in each lifetime. One cannot escape from Iswara's jurisdiction while one still identifies with the activities of the body. The only way to become free of his authority is to transcend Karma completely by realising the Self. __ ===== RamanaMaharshi MillionPaths ANetofJewels Nisargadatta Find a job, post your resume. http://careers. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:41:00 -0000 "diana" <diana Re: Jan, speaking of parrots Perfect, Gloria!!!! Grinning wide )) Thanks! Laughing diana , "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote: > > > A man goes into a pet shop to buy a parrot. The shop owner points to three identical looking parrots on a perch and says, "the parrot on the left costs $5,000.00." > "Why does the parrot cost so much?" asks the man. > The owner says, "Well the parrot knows how to use a computer." The man then asks about the next parrot and is told that this one costs $15,000 because it can do everything the other parrot can do plus it knows how to use the UNIX operating system. > Naturally, the increasingly startled man asks about the third parrot to be told that it costs $30,000. Needless to say this begs the question, "What can it do?" > To which the owner replies, "To be honest I have never seen him do a thing, but the other two call him boss!" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:58:24 +0000 "jb" <kvy9 Re: Jan, speaking of parrots/Glo Little Johnny was accompanying his mother, shopping. When they passed the pet shop, there was a cute cockatoo - and it did cost only $10... Johnny wanted it but his mother wondered why it was just ten bucks. They entered the pet shop and asked... "Why is the cockatoo just $10?". "His former home was with a couple of ladies of pleasure who taught him a lot of naughtiness". "Then I'll reeducate him" the mother said. At home, the cockatoo started to use f... words and neither peanuts nor a warning could change its behavior. The mother pointed to the fridge and the cockatoo said "you bitch!!". That put him into the fridge but just after an hour, he was freed from it. And he was changed completely... Asking what did him change his vocabulary, the cockatoo said "that bald chicken must have been behaving really bad...". So when Johnny's sister came home, she was greeted with "Hi dear lady, welcome, you're the second one here, let's have fun". Then Johnny's father arrived from work: "Hey Mike, what kept you so long?" [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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