Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 Really nice to see you back here Wim...You were missed! Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 Hi Wim, Good to have you back for a while. As you know from my web pages I also use yin-yang symbols. Another application is 'moebius' strip or loop. The link below is an animated version (there is also the popular wood cutting by Escher. (Click on the photo to start the animation.) http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/moebius.avi Love, james , "Wim Borsboom" <wim_borsboom@h...> wrote: > Dear Julie and James, > > Julie wrote: > >I recently read a post where oneness and duality were said to be > >two sides of the same coin. It's such a relief not to have to solve or > >overcome or transcend duality, but instead, to simply accept it as >part of > >the ebb and flow of what is. > > And Julie, it is even better than that. If you like metaphors - and you seem > to - if they help you understand and gain insight... the following metaphor > might even better. > > We do not live in a "sorto' clumsy" three dimensional world where two > dimensions "kindo' work out" and one dimension is just as thick as the > thickness of a coin... > > In reality, we do not live in a world where we see things broken down and > compressed into polarities, opposites, dualities and absolutes even if they > appear as two-sides of single coins. > > We may not experience it anymore, but we do actually live in a > multidimensional world where proverbial coins are at least spheres, integral > miraculous objects, filled out with wondrous energetic power. > > Are there two sides to a sphere? Is it not more dynamic than that? Are those > two observed sides not just dependent on our relative position, a position > too often static and one-sided instead of following the curves and whirls of > a love making dance? > > From a sphere's point of view everything surrounds it, everything comes > towards it and everything flows away from it. > From its point of view, there is not even just linear time as even the in > and outflows are concurrent, as even the dimensional directions take place > within itself at the same time in the same place. > > Only onlookers, who have been diminished in their ability to see their own > wholeness, prevented from the experience of self fully, see a sphere from > various and limiting sides. > > That wonderful yin yang symbol originally was an attempt by its inventor to > project, depict and convey multidimensional wholeness onto a two-dimensional > plane... > > Imagine it to be the depiction of one dynamic evolving, devolving, > involving, revolving sphere-like entity that, because of linear time may > just appear like two black-white things with white-black centers. > > Imagine that 'yin yang' to be multidimensional in space as well as time. > > One time I was allowed to experience and remember that integral divine > wholeness in a special way, as IT devoluted itself down into lesser and > lesser dimensional representations. And what did I observe? > > Have you ever seen the Tibetan representation of a 'yin yang' type of symbol > but with three lobes... or even four...? (Even the swastika is related to > that.) > > I was allowed to undergo that experience from the one to the many and the > many to the one... > From the one to the two, > to trinity > from three to four > to five to six and seven, > eight, nine, ten and eleven... > and it did not stop until all individuations where seen as emanating from > and creations of the one... > Then the reverse... form the many to the one. > Ah the human divine life, the miracle of miracles > > Duality or even the discussion of nonduality is so limiting and time > consuming. The argument in itself is all too often the reason for not going > beyond or the excuse for not being able to. > > Look at my web page: > http://www2.aurasphere.org:8000/10YinYangSymbols > It is just an attempt, a beginning... > (My dear Dan Winter, are you still there, ready to work again...?) > > Love, Wim > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 Dear James, You wrote: >As you know from my web pages I also use yin-yang symbols. >Another application is 'moebius' strip or loop. When I was with Lynette in Missouri and did readings for a group there in Saint Joseph's two weeks ago, my equipment was set up under a golden Moebius strip, as well did I do my consultations pretty well underneath it. The strip was embedded in a wire frame constructed of one acscending and one descending tetrahedon: the 3D Star of David. The readings were very good and the healing aspect of my work was noticably enhanced. I taped my talk there, as well did I tape the yawning and stretching exercises that I teach. These exercises help us discard old braincells (cholesterol in the brain gone bad) and replace them with new ones, thus rejuvenating our brain, especially the cerebellum part. What does that have to do with the Moebius strip? Well the yin yang, moebius symbology and their intrinsic sacred geometry help us to physically prevent those loopy thoughts of ours from going haywire... By the way, Lynette is reproducing the tapes into VHS format to make them available for distribution at some point. Love you James, Wim _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 Hi Wim, Speaking of metaphors, one of my favorite metaphors has always been the holographic universe. Seeing the whole present in every part. Thanks for giving me some new ones to consider. <<Duality or even the discussion of nonduality is so limiting and time consuming. The argument in itself is all too often the reason for not going beyond or the excuse for not being able to.>> I've always loved philosophy and the search for truth, but, at some point, I knew so many different theories of being that they all became meaningless. Yes, this can be used as an excuse to give up caring, but it can also be the breakthrough that takes one beyond philosophy and into unconditioned being. Namaste, Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 Hi my dear tg, Too bad I will be off for a while again... although I love my work abroad immensely, I do so enjoy to be in the digital presence of the neat people on this list. Love you tg, Wim >leteegee > > >Re: Nowhere to Turn... indeed >Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:12:38 EST > > >Really nice to see you back here Wim...You were missed! > >Love, >xxxtg > > >/join > > > > > >All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, >perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside >back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than >the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of >Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is >Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality >of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, >spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to >a. > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 Yes yes yes, my dear Julie, >Unconditioned being Well said! >Seeing the whole present in every part. Here is a metaphor from my mother, seen from the constituting parts rather than the integral whole... "A balloon will only remain whole and inflated, when none of its constituting rubbery molecules gets pricked..." Love you Julie, Wim (And what a good name you have... You know that William (Wim) and Julie share the same root? Meaning 'joy-peace-goodwill' all together.) _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 Wim, Julie & Friends, Julie says: I've always loved philosophy and the search for truth, but, at some point, I knew so many different theories of being that they all became meaningless. Yes, this can be used as an excuse to give up caring, but it can also be the breakthrough that takes one beyond philosophy and into unconditioned being. Eric: More often it seems to take us finally into practice. what was your experience? yours in the bonds, eric , Julie Isaac <jei@m...> wrote: > Hi Wim, > > Speaking of metaphors, one of my favorite metaphors has always been the > holographic universe. Seeing the whole present in every part. Thanks for > giving me some new ones to consider. > > <<Duality or even the discussion of nonduality is so limiting and time > consuming. The argument in itself is all too often the reason for not going > beyond or the excuse for not being able to.>> > > I've always loved philosophy and the search for truth, but, at some point, I > knew so many different theories of being that they all became meaningless. > Yes, this can be used as an excuse to give up caring, but it can also be the > breakthrough that takes one beyond philosophy and into unconditioned being. > > Namaste, > Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Eric, Yes, getting fed up with philosophy took me deeper into the realm of experience and practice. I looked deeply and honestly at where I was and at what I could do to make a positive change in my life. Outside of any philosophy, I decided to start simply. I wanted to stop finding fault with everything that was in my life and stop fantasizing about the "better" job/home/relationship that I would have when... or, if only... I wanted to stop running away from, stop running towards and fully accept who I was, where I was. This completely changed my life. Several years later, I discovered non-duality, felt right at home and picked up a philosophy again. Eric, what does, "yours in the bonds" mean? Namaste, Julie <Julie says: <I've always loved philosophy and the search for truth, but, at some <point, I knew so many different theories of being that they all <became meaningless. Yes, this can be used as an excuse to give up <caring, but it can also be the breakthrough that takes one beyond <philosophy and into unconditioned being. <Eric: <More often it seems to take us finally into practice. what was your <experience? <yours in the bonds, <eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Hi Harsha, Your mother's metaphor is a great illustration of Buddhism's teaching of dependent arising, of the interdependence of all things. Or, as I like to say, "You are sitting here partly because every truck in the world did not hit you while you were crossing the street." Love to you, and to your mother! --Greg At 08:19 AM 11/14/01 +0000, Wim Borsboom wrote: >Yes yes yes, my dear Julie, > > >Unconditioned being > >Well said! > > >Seeing the whole present in every part. > >Here is a metaphor from my mother, seen from the constituting parts rather >than the integral whole... >"A balloon will only remain whole and inflated, when none of its >constituting rubbery molecules gets pricked..." > >Love you Julie, Wim >(And what a good name you have... You know that William (Wim) and Julie >share the same root? Meaning 'joy-peace-goodwill' all together.) > > >_______________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >/join > > > > > >All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, >perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and >subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not >different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the >nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. >It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the >Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of >Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome >all to a. > > > >Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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