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Hi All,

 

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about my conditioning and how the

philosophy of nonduality has become the lens through which I see the world.

No matter how much I may believe that this path holds the truth, as long as

I make nonduality a path and a practice, it obscures the truth. Presence is

not a path, a practice, a philosophy, or even a concept. It's that which I

am, before I start trying to do, be, or become. This doesn't negate

practice, but is that which is present before, during, and after practice.

And, of course, to even say these words is to appear to present a

philosophy. Such is the inevitable effect of putting silence into words.

 

Namaste,

Julie

 

 

This is from:

http://www.dailyzen.com

 

Because you grasp labels and slogans,

You are hindered by

Those labels and slogans,

Both those used in

Ordinary life and those

Considered sacred.

Thus they obstruct your

Perception of objective truth,

And you cannot understand clearly.

 

- Linji (d.867)

 

 

 

 

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I maintain that Truth is a

pathless land, and you

cannot approach it by any

path whatsoever, by any

religion, by any sect.

 

J. Krishnamurti

August 2, 1929

Ommen, Holland

 

Thank you, Julie.

 

 

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:42:07 -0800 Julie Isaac <jei writes:

> Hi All,

>

> Lately, I've been thinking a lot about my conditioning and how the

> philosophy of nonduality has become the lens through which I see the

> world.

> No matter how much I may believe that this path holds the truth, as

> long as

> I make nonduality a path and a practice, it obscures the truth.

> Presence is

> not a path, a practice, a philosophy, or even a concept. It's that

> which I

> am, before I start trying to do, be, or become. This doesn't negate

> practice, but is that which is present before, during, and after

> practice.

> And, of course, to even say these words is to appear to present a

> philosophy. Such is the inevitable effect of putting silence into

> words.

>

> Namaste,

> Julie

>

>

> This is from:

> http://www.dailyzen.com

>

> Because you grasp labels and slogans,

> You are hindered by

> Those labels and slogans,

> Both those used in

> Ordinary life and those

> Considered sacred.

> Thus they obstruct your

> Perception of objective truth,

> And you cannot understand clearly.

>

> - Linji (d.867)

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

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I agree with you, Julie.

 

And, to say these words gives the impression

that there is something to be communicated,

and someone who needs to know about this.

 

Yet, here is a world of wars, manipulations,

and hostility. How has this situation arisen

in the midst of "nonduality"?

 

So, there is something to say.

 

And yet ... and yet ...

 

 

Namaste,

Dan

 

 

 

> Hi All,

>

> Lately, I've been thinking a lot about my conditioning and how the

> philosophy of nonduality has become the lens through which I see the

world.

> No matter how much I may believe that this path holds the truth, as

long as

> I make nonduality a path and a practice, it obscures the truth.

Presence is

> not a path, a practice, a philosophy, or even a concept. It's that

which I

> am, before I start trying to do, be, or become. This doesn't negate

> practice, but is that which is present before, during, and after

practice.

> And, of course, to even say these words is to appear to present a

> philosophy. Such is the inevitable effect of putting silence into

words.

>

> Namaste,

> Julie

>

>

> This is from:

> http://www.dailyzen.com

>

> Because you grasp labels and slogans,

> You are hindered by

> Those labels and slogans,

> Both those used in

> Ordinary life and those

> Considered sacred.

> Thus they obstruct your

> Perception of objective truth,

> And you cannot understand clearly.

>

> - Linji (d.867)

>

>

>

>

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