Reincarnation (was: God Bless America)

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Dear Jan,

 

I hope you got yourself a musical instruments later, to fulfill that wish. I

am very fond of Jazz music myself, if only as an amateur. Especially love

Gerry Mulligan's "cool" jazz.

 

But I can also understand your parents' concern because, come to think of

it, Gerry Mulligan also did a brief jail term on drug charges; many of his

colleagues had similar problems. One should think that music would have a

stabilizing effect on a person's psyche, but it doesn't always seem to be

the case.

 

Take care,

 

Michael

 

 

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----

Von: jb [kvy9]

Gesendet: Sunday, December 02, 2001 01:26

An:

Betreff: Re: Reincarnation (was: God Bless America)

 

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I would have been quite happy if only my parents had given a musical

instrument -

from birth on i was fascinated with music, wanted to become a jazz musician

but

it was refused - the narrow-mindedness of that time, that jazz musicians

were drug

addicts ending up in the gutter.

 

The sight of grown ups, caught in rigid opinions, unable to reason on the

basis of

perceptions, unable to give the benefit of the doubt and experiment, meant

that

there was no wish to be involved in society - in Europe, it's next to

impossible

to teach kids privately in such a way as not to foster conditioning. And

destiny

didn't present the 'option' to be involved with kids.

:

:If you feel these questions to be too personal, please simply ignore them,

:but as a father of two, and also as a former educator, I'd be very

:interested in your opinion.

 

Nothing is too personal Sometimes i see a kid that (still) isn't

conditioned

and the recognition is always mutual. Conditioning could be defined as the

mental

layer of opinions concerning an object whereas without conditioning, "just"

the

object is observed - the analogy of navigating through a haze or when it's

sunny.

That is what i would make kids aware of - if for instance they "just" see

some cat,

or if they see a cat with their opinions unknowingly attached to it...

 

:

:As to not making a distinction between "you" and "me" - that's the goal! I

:have to admit, though, that I am not there yet. :-)

 

In the land called "sentience" there isn't a goal, only a journey

 

Peace,

Jan

 

:

:Take care,

:

:Michael

 

 

 

 

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All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

On 12/9/01 at 2:42 PM MikeSuesserott wrote:

 

ºDear Jan,

º

ºI hope you got yourself a musical instruments later, to fulfill that wish.

ºI

ºam very fond of Jazz music myself, if only as an amateur. Especially love

ºGerry Mulligan's "cool" jazz.

 

No, i never got an instrument. My father wanted me to have the kind of career

he would have liked himself, so he challenged me to take the old radio apart

and make a new one out of it, beginning with a simple 1 valve set with

headphones.

That went well and being able to listen to everything what formerly was denied,

soon my knowledge was at a point, no longer funny for my father. Designing

rather

complicated sets and devoting all available time to it, having got permission to

ransack the library for adults at the age of 12, he had to discover again,

that the situation was "beyond" his control.

º

ºBut I can also understand your parents' concern because, come to think of

ºit, Gerry Mulligan also did a brief jail term on drug charges; many of his

ºcolleagues had similar problems. One should think that music would have a

ºstabilizing effect on a person's psyche, but it doesn't always seem to be

ºthe case.

º

ºTake care,

º

ºMichael

 

Patanjali describes all possible samadhis and many of them are "waking" types:

they happen while absorbed in 'work'. This can be extremely blissful so when

coming out of it, that feels terrible, and without proper knowledge, that could

lead to the use of drugs, eating disorders, booze, just to fill the void....

Not a surprise at all - what is sad is that the mechanism

isn't recognized, even by those, supposedly 'realized' yogis.

 

Peace,

Jan