Samadhi

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Xan

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:30 PM

Samadhi

 

~ Greetings, satsangh people. I am returning to

this community after a break resulting from a general loss

of having anything to say. Gratefully, I still have no idea,

but speaking seems to happen anyway.

 

Xan

 

 

Horia:

I'm asking anyone who can help me : What are the exact signs of samadhi as

in personal experience, not theory ?

I think I experienced samadhi recently but I am not quite sure. It could

have been just a mental void or a state close to samadi.

 

~ Horia, I am not an expert, but I love the absorption

in Ramana Maharshi's teaching that I have when I search

his Talks book on specific topics.

So I took this opportunity to seek out his words about

Samadhi:

 

 

Samadhi transcends mind and speech and cannot be described.

 

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Contemplation is a forced mental process,

whereas samadhi lies beyond effort.

 

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Samadhi is one's natural state.

 

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As for nirvikalpa samadhi - undifferentiated, supreme, repose -

it consists of pure consciousness, which is capable of illumining

knowledge or ignorance.

 

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M: Samadhi alone can reveal the truth. Thoughts cast a veil over

Reality and so it cannot be clear in states other than Samadhi.

 

D: Is there thought in Samadhi, or is there not?

 

M: There will only be the feeling 'I am' and no other thoughts.

 

D: Is not 'I am' a thought?

 

M: The egoless 'I am' is not a thought; it is a realisation. The

meaning or significance of 'I' is God. The experience of

'I am' is to Be Still.

 

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Samadhi is Perfect Peace.

 

After emerging from samadhi the remembrance of it is clear

and gives rise to joyful tears or ecstatic sensations.

 

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The student is bound to wake up from the samadhi because

release from the bondage of vasanas (tendencies) has not

yet been accomplished.... When the student has freed the

heart the samadhi becomes permanent.

 

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Asked about the difference between external and internal

samadhis, the Master said:

External samadhi is awareness of Reality while witnessing

the world, without reacting to it from within.

Internal samadhi involves loss of body-consciousness.

 

There is a Consciousness which is absolute and unaffected.

Remain there. That is smadhi. It exists where there is no

body-consciousness because it transcends the latter. It also

exists when there is body-consciousness, so it is always there.

 

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Types of Samadhi:

 

1. Awareness of Reality is Samadhi.

2. Awareness of Reality with effort is Savikalpa Samadhi.

3. Merging completely in Reality and being unaware of the world is

Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

4. Merging in Ignorance (unconsciousness) and being unaware of the

world is sleep. (Head bends while sitting, in sleep but not in

samadhi)

5. Remaining in the primal, pure natural state without effort is

Sahaja Samadhi.

 

from Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

 

~ My own experience is that Reality is silent, bright and pure,

and without density.

 

Xan

 

 

 

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All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean,

all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does

not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is.

Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee

relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into

It Self. Welcome all to a.

 

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