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Dear lists members,

 

As you may or may not recall, on Nov 15 2001, Mark Valentine alias White

Wolfe, posted an email, in the postscript of which he made some grave

derogatory remarks about my integrity as a human being.

The two of us have been dealing with this intensively, which eventually

resulted in Mark offering his sincere apologies.

As part of his resolution, I would like to submit the three emails that

dealt with this issue. Of course while doing this, I draw some attention to

an issue that some may consider to be best left alone. However as we all may

be able to learn from this, I send you these emails as a testimony to

Unconditional Life (Sat), Unconditional Truth and Unconditional Love

(Ananda). This email exchange between Mark and me started originally under

the heading "Sat Chit Ananda and suffering."

 

Hopefully, the two of us have helped each other to dispense with some of the

suffering.

 

Love to all of you, Wim

 

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First of three email copies

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Dear Mira and Mark,

 

I have just come home from a long trip abroad, during which I did not keep

up with the Perceptions of Life and lists.

To my great surprise, someone just recently mentioned a public email

exchange on the Perceptions Of Life, and Thomas Merton lists,

that included the following post script from one of Mark Valentine's posts:

"White Wolfe" <valemar.1@h...

Thu Nov 15, 2001 12:35 am

Re: Sat Chit Ananda and suffering.

>>> p.s. really, wim....you do not impress us when you tell us that you were

the apostle john or that you were there when siddartha gautama spoke.....our

response is, so what! it did not prevent you from becoming a pedophile and

abusive sexual predator in this life-time! give it up or maybe you should

go get in bed with shirley maclaine....i forget how many famous people she

has been......sheez! <<<

 

I was quite encouraged to see that Mira responded on her list:

>>> ~Dear Mark,

This is list is and was never intended to work out personal issues with its

participants. I do not view this posting as a contribution to Perceptions of

Life as suggested in the list guidelines. Your poetry and comments are

highly appreciated, as are discussions in the light of mutual respect, and I

hope you will continue to contribute from your deep understanding and

compassion. It is a request made to all that are participants on this list.

As a reminder I send you the list guidelines.

Mira~ <<<

 

However, Mira's response hardly clears the issue. A lot more from both of

you is needed to resolve this to my full satisfaction, in order to have my

moral integrity and character remain as unblemished as they ever were.

 

As The Perceptions of Life, and Thomas Merton posts are part

of the public domain and record and therefore easily accessible and

searchable using conventional search practices, I see the need to have my

character, name and goodwill publicly cleared, absolutely and to my full

satisfaction.

 

Mark Valentine has made some very grave public allegations in his post, not

only questioning my moral integrity but also publicly characterizing me as

follows:

"...it did not prevent you from becoming a pedophile and abusive sexual

predator in this life-time! ..."

 

If anything, although the 'tendencies' to lean that way, were strong and

extremely painful, with God's, the Holy Spirit's, Jesus Christ's, many a

Saint's and Angel's help and with the help of many a loving compassionate

Human, that is exactly the kind of person I did NOT become.

In my public postings over the last years, I have written and testified in

all honesty and frankness about the total and irreversible clearing and

healing of those 'tendencies'.

Thanks be... to the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit for the graces, help

and strength given to me, to NOT perpetuate to others the perpetrations of

malice that were done to me.

 

If anything, helping (amongst others) clients with "pedophile and abusive

sexual predator" behaviour, has helped tremendously in safeguarding many a

young child to retain their original "onbezoedeldheid" or purity.

 

Part of this issue, although very minor, is also that Mark used a private

email from me to him, posting it publicly without my consent. This is

against common list etiquette and needs to be set straight as well.

 

I have been advised by some very good friends of mine to seek legal counsel

in order to have my name fully cleared of Mark's public allegations and his

defamation of my integrity, character, good name and goodwill.

 

In the meantime, Mira, I would like to hear from you on how you intend to

help off-setting the damage that was done through your list by one of its

members.

 

I cannot take this lightly, as you may well understand, I travel the world

widely with my work; to have any unfounded blemishes against my name stand

unchallenged is not an option.

 

Awaiting your response,

Regards,

 

Wim Borsboom

 

 

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> Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:55:37 -0800

> "Wim Borsboom" <wim

> Staying in the clear 1 (was RE: Sat Chit Ananda and suffering)

> Dear lists members,

> As you may or may not recall, on Nov 15 2001, Mark Valentine alias White

> Wolfe, posted an email, in the postscript of which he made some grave

> derogatory remarks about my integrity as a human being. (snip)

 

dear Wim,

 

it really sucks that you have been through this undeserved ordeal...

(although you know as well as i do, that all that happens truly serves All

in the long run)... no less, i feel much compassion for you, and some sense

of outrage about this blatant and obviously (to all who know you) untrue

libelous slander...

 

you handled the situation with compassion and firm dignity... so please know

(for whatever it is worth) that i feel that you bringing the issue up

publicly is completely necessary and right... although i don't often post on

this list, i have been a member for many months, and am friends with so many

of its members... i do feel that this letter of support should be made

publicly, although i had originally planned it to be a private email... [so

i beg the listmembers for understanding in my taking up bandwidth with this

painful subject...]

 

you are so honest, brave and loving to risk publicly discussing this FORMER

shadow side of your nature... and i congratulate on being able to

successfully battle this generational victim-becomes-perpetrator vicious

cycle... it is miraculous that you were able to feel such a driving

compulsion, and to not end up harming others by relentlessly fighting your

PREVIOUS TENDENCIES and NEVER ACTING ON THEM...

 

only someone like you can do so much to help others from falling prey to the

same terrible fate... thank you for being with us, and for being so loving,

wise and strong...

 

lovingly,

 

john percyval

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