My reply to Harsha's comments/ used to be to Vicki: ...

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People criticize that which they dont understand....

Hi Lynette...

I certainly do not mean any offense to you by this, but you said in so

many words that Harsha was being narrow-minded for his criticism of

Wim. This could be considered a well-meaning criticism to Harsha,

coming from what you know to be true based on your past experiences.

'People are narrowminded when they don't know the whole big picture."

Yes, they can!

Could it be that Harsha's criticism of Wim also came from this same

place of experience, rather than narrowmindedness? ( I don't know

where it came from ... I figured he was having a bad hair day like I

have at times)

With Love,

xxxtg

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.... I figured he was having a bad hair day like I have at times)Yes, I

also speculated as much... Wondering why Harsha was not sounding like

himself, and wondered if he was okay. I was speaking of

narrow-mindedness about the aurastar machine.. He has no experience

with it, and was making negative comments about it, without trying it

out himself... If he wishes to criticize Wim, that is another matter.

To criticize a machine, after never experiencing the machine, well,

is just kinda narrow.... I've been on the machine, I can speak about

it with experience. And to hint at its unusefulness, without the

experience to back that up, comes from a petty viewpoint, designed to

throw barbs.

{this whole email is for the whole list... In no way, is this a

personal speculation as to your viewpoint or your stance,

tg............ Just a further clarification of my viewpoint and

stance.... I hope you will take it in the spirit it was given. }

Inserted up here, for your advantage. )))))

Whatever his reason for being sharp with Wim, well I have no clue as

to his reason. That is between him and Wim. All I know about the part

I read was he was being harsh about a machine. That serves a useful

purpose in the work Wim does... People want to see what is going on,

and this machine allows them that opportunity... If Wim could spend a

week or two weeks with a person, or a month or two months with a

person, and be able to determine their physical difficulties based on

blocked chakras, or the like, well, that does take up quite a bit of

time...... If the machine can substantiate what he is able to figure

out anyways, then heck, why not use it.... Especially since people

like to see that kind of stuff.... I spent two days with him, in the

same room with him and other people that had appointments. And I saw

them respond with very positive comments about what the aurastar

could show them... Knowing a bit more about their bodies, and what

caused the blocks.... the physical aspect of seeing your

electromagnetic field, being displayed, is enough to say, "Yes, I

need to work on that", and "how do I go about it."... Plus, it shows

what chakras are low in energy, and which ones are high in energy...

A well balanced person would need them all functioning well.... They

then can know what needs to be done to balance out their energy....

My own improvement on a physical level is because I've followed Wim's

advice, before and after, the aurastar......But with the machine, I

was able to see for myself how well I was doing.. That is why, people

want him to come back, and do it again, so they can confirm that

certain physical things are better, not just with a word from a

person, but from a machine that backs it up.

There is nothing so strange about picking up peoples natural energy,

and being able to determine their weaknesses. The medical field, the

science field, the world in general is becoming very knowledgable

about such things, not taking anything as being a hoax, but giving

people time, and methods time to prove or disprove themselves. This

isnt the same time period as when we believed the world was flat, now

is it? Why do you think so many people are turning back to homeopathic

type medicine or trying experiemental techniques.... Even the medical

field itself in small pockets, are becoming aware of natural healing

ways of taking care of these problems they have just medicated for

years... The difference, at least here, is that we have someone using

a machine, plus with the knowledge and background on k energy, on

chakras and auras, on buddha and christ, on how the body/mind

works.... And saying, "hey, we can feel better, we can be better. We

can heal ourselves."

I love Harsha, and for sometime, I've stayed with this list, in spite

of its silly spiritual debates, and hoped for something more to come

from this Satsangh... Some kind of community display of divine

humanity... But it does not happen... Some may wish to point fingers

at other people because certain people are confident in what they

know, do you know why that happens? Because someone told them before

that confidence breeds big heads, or superiority complex, or

whatever, and they have decided that it is wrong to speak out, and

say what you know... Instead it is safer to quote famous gurus... And

speak behind a mask, so no one will attack us personally for standing

up and saying, "enough is enough"

well, guess what, Enough is enough....... Wanna feel better, find a

way to make it so. If one method is not right for you, wonderful,

find another. If one guru is not the right one for you, Great, find

another. Just because one way is not your way, does not make it a

wrong way.

this whole email was for the whole list... In no way, was this a

personal speculation as to your viewpoint or your stance,

tg............ Just a further clarification of my viewpoint and

stance.... I hope you will take it in the spirit it was given.

I purposely stayed silent on this list, with all the upheaval that was

going on. But I am a person in my own right, even though I chose to

support Wim, in his work and in a personal individual one-on-one

relationship.... I know, beyond a doubt, that what he knows, is

valid. Valid for me. He has never steered me wrongly, and if he puts

on airs, well.......... so what............I can say from experience

with this list, that 85 percent of the people here put on airs. At

least, the ones that display their humanity, are more real.

And this part is for you tg...Your bad hair days, well, that is a very

real display of humanity.... Thank you for your comments, and I

apologize for my harshness to this list..

someone told me recently, dont apologize, it shows your weaknesses...

Well so what... My apology is mine to give. For even if I speak

harshly, and someone doesnt like it, my very real self, does not want

to hurt people's feelings. For when I hurt you, I hurt myself........

And beyond words, its just you and me, and love

between.

Hugs, and love,

Lynette

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leteegee (AT) aol (DOT) com

Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:46 PM

Re: My reply to Harsha's comments/ used to be Re: to Vicki: ...

In a message dated 1/2/2002 12:01:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lynette (AT) knoxy (DOT) net writes:

People criticize that which they dont understand....Hi Lynette...I

certainly do not mean any offense to you by this, but you said in so

many words that Harsha was being narrow-minded for his criticism of

Wim. This could be considered a well-meaning criticism to Harsha,

coming from what you know to be true based on your past experiences.

'People are narrowminded when they don't know the whole big picture."

Yes, they can! Could it be that Harsha's criticism of Wim also came

from this same place of experience, rather than narrowmindedness? (

I don't know where it came from ... I figured he was having a bad

hair day like I have at times)With Love,xxxtg

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