Being Right, Some Kundalini Paths, and other stuff...

[Guest guest]

Being right is important at a certain stage of the kundalini processing.

Prior to kundalini, we want to be right because we ARE right and the other is

wrong! During the kundalini process, it becomes a little different. We

begin to understand everyone is right from their own perception. Once that

understanding comes, we can easily allow the other to have their own view

without interference from us.

 

As understanding comes, we begin sharing with others what we've learned in

various areas. Not many of us miss this wonderful opportunity to become a

teacher. The problem arises when we begin to think of ourself only as the

teacher. We begin to know it all. It doesn't matter what stage we are at,

we are always -- all ways -- strengthening our own ideas as a student when we

are teaching. Possibly, for another area of our life than the subject we are

actually teaching. But always strengthening our own ideas in some way. An

area that is out of balance for the moment. Teaching, with this knowledge,

is nothing to be ashamed of -- admitting you are out of balance in a part of

your life -- but rather a way to honor and help you along this most important

pathway. And most importantly, to help another at the same time along their

own path.

 

We cannot teach another without being the student ourself. It is impossible.

It is also possible to not truly understand this idea, therefore not reaping

the benefits of our own teaching.

 

When we share -- truly share as both teacher and student, we strengthen our

own ideas. This is a lovely place to be. Being both student and teacher

alike... sharing... helping one another grow and learn. Recognizing one

person may be ahead of you in one particular area, and you may be ahead of

them in another. Even while you are teaching what you've experienced that

they haven't yet, you are still strengthening your ideas that will also work

for another area of your life that is out of balance.... an idea that had not

occurred to you.

 

It reminds me of that joke about being in hell, sitting at the dinnertable

with many, and the spoons are so long, you can't feed yourself. But in

heaven, with the same spoons, we feed one another.

 

As the kundalini works its way in our life, if our ego is strong willed, we

move on to another stage. This is a tough one as the ego doesn't want to

back down that easily without fighting. We eventually could.... it's a

perfectly natural process.... become the Buddha himself, either through

self-proclaimed recognition, and/or through others recognition of our

enlightenment we tended to believe. This is not about our delusions of being

Buddha or Jesus Christ. It's thinking we're *there*.

 

Now we know more than the majority, including the 'so-called' sages and

guru's' -- we become a sage to everyone. It doesn't matter what their belief

or path is, or how far along they are, we know more than they do. This can

be a very tricky stage. Because we have received so much knowledge,

revelations, experiences, and possibly even illumination, we want to play

devil's advocate. We want to teach them -- the sages - to kill us. Kill the

Buddha. We think we are teaching them a thing or two. And why not? We are

the Sage of the All Sages!

 

The ego tightens its grip as the sage explains why they are doing what they

do, to prove they are the Sage of the Sages that think they know it all.

They actually think they are doing the world a favor by teaching the other

sage to disembowel their Buddha. They do not recognize that the other sage

already knows this. They do not recognize that this is merely a stage in the

game, because they began to believe their own Buddhahood to be the One. They

forgot at some point... and maybe never learned... they are always the

student too... in every case.

 

With this stage of the 'unrecognizable to ourself kundalini high' of Being

Buddha, Divine, All There Is, we begin to know that this is who we truly are

because we feel so divine, so blissful, so right. So comfortable, that it

must be who we are. Many students may come. All are welcome. We discuss

openly the miracles we've given and received, our profundity, our gifts, our

divineness, to attract more students, or to merely impress upon others how

wonderful we truly are.

 

This particular stage can be *catching* to the unaware student that comes to

us. We are so caught up in our own magnificence, we bring others with us.

They begin to believe as we do. If we've hopefully learned enough to let

them fly when they are ready, they go out into the world, thinking this is

the norm. This is who they are. They are enlightened. Now. Here. They

are no more enlightened than their teacher. They are merely caught up in

another's kundalini processing. The more empathic students feel it the

worst, and it can be difficult for them. When the student begins to believe

it themself, the sage may, instead, cut them down, instead of letting them

fly. It doesn't matter which. The student may go from teacher to teacher,

until they finally begin to listen to their own internal teacher, or find a

teacher that recognizes he is also a student always, and shows the steps to

truly listening to their internal teacher. This is always helpful to both

and cannot fail.

 

If another person can cut through this armor the sage has built for himself

-- if the sage is truly open-minded -- he will move on to the next stage. If

not, he can stay in this stage for years and years. In this *high* wonderful

place. It is an out-of-control state. It can be manic, hyper, charismatic

to seekers and frustrating to those who have already been there. Frustrating

because of the armor we can't break. The sage can be equally frustrated at

the armor he cannot break in what he sees as 'so-called sages'.

 

If the armor does get broken, we go on to the next stage. Killing our own

Buddha. Becoming human again. Honoring ourselves. This can be a long

process because of our own, or another's, brainwashing. It could be

devastating, realizing we are not who we thought we were. Accepting our

ordinariness can feel boring and 'just not right' as we get used to not being

extraordinary, unlimited, and divine. It is perfectly normal at this stage

to go back and forth for a while, until you come to accept yourself as a

human, rather than divine.

 

We begin turning our back on God -- that which we thought God was -- the

high. It begins to filter into every area of our life, as we let go of our

Buddhahood and become human. We no longer wish others to kill us first. We

begin speaking our truth - not the Divine Truth, but our truth. We begin

seeing where our heads are in the clouds in other areas of our life. We

begin talking and sharing, as teachers and students alike, as we were meant

to, instead of only teaching. We begin honoring others, without

persistence, knowing they know who they are. We begin truly talking like a

human being, instead of the divine being we thought we were.

 

We accept what is, as is. As we see it. If it looks like a duck and swims

like a duck, it is a duck. We do not doubt ourselves, although others may see

it as so. We begin to embrace our own perception, regardless of how screwed

up it may be, instead of the light divine, and know that within us lies the

perfect knowing and that our fellow travelers will help us along. We will

know who can help us and who can't. We begin knowing what is right for us.

We begin embracing if what we see, hear, or say, doesn't feel right to us, it

isn't right for us, and honor others the same right. We begin embracing that

which does feel right for us. We begin honoring ourselves and truly honoring

others for the first time in our lives. Not for who we want them to be, but

for who they are. We begin truly loving ourselves.

 

We begin understanding that we thought we had one foot in heaven and one foot

on earth, but see now that only our heads were in the clouds, thinking it was

heaven. Both feet were here all along.

 

We begin understanding we are bringing heaven and earth together, and being

neither, but being one. Us. Who we are. One. Not two. Not heaven. Not

earth. Not divine nor human. No labels nor resumes. Just me. Nothing

more, nothing less.

 

With this stage, we begin to understand the true meaning of the heart center.

Where we reside.

 

And with this understanding, the tears will flow.

 

Love,

xxxtg

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/07/2002 6:50:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,

leteegee writes:

 

<< xxxtg >>

 

Thank you...

[Guest guest]

Wow, wonderful words, Teegee... You have a heart of compassion, and a gift

with words. Thank you for your post.

 

Love, Lynette

-

<leteegee

<>

Monday, January 07, 2002 8:48 PM

Being Right, Some Kundalini Paths, and other

stuff...

 

>

> Being right is important at a certain stage of the kundalini processing.

> Prior to kundalini, we want to be right because we ARE right and the other

is

> wrong! During the kundalini process, it becomes a little different. We

> begin to understand everyone is right from their own perception. Once

that

> understanding comes, we can easily allow the other to have their own view

> without interference from us.

>

> As understanding comes, we begin sharing with others what we've learned in

> various areas. Not many of us miss this wonderful opportunity to become a

> teacher. The problem arises when we begin to think of ourself only as the

> teacher. We begin to know it all. It doesn't matter what stage we are

at,

> we are always -- all ways -- strengthening our own ideas as a student when

we

> are teaching. Possibly, for another area of our life than the subject we

are

> actually teaching. But always strengthening our own ideas in some way.

An

> area that is out of balance for the moment. Teaching, with this

knowledge,

> is nothing to be ashamed of -- admitting you are out of balance in a part

of

> your life -- but rather a way to honor and help you along this most

important

> pathway. And most importantly, to help another at the same time along

their

> own path.

>

> We cannot teach another without being the student ourself. It is

impossible.

> It is also possible to not truly understand this idea, therefore not

reaping

> the benefits of our own teaching.

>

> When we share -- truly share as both teacher and student, we strengthen

our

> own ideas. This is a lovely place to be. Being both student and teacher

> alike... sharing... helping one another grow and learn. Recognizing one

> person may be ahead of you in one particular area, and you may be ahead of

> them in another. Even while you are teaching what you've experienced that

> they haven't yet, you are still strengthening your ideas that will also

work

> for another area of your life that is out of balance.... an idea that had

not

> occurred to you.

>

> It reminds me of that joke about being in hell, sitting at the dinnertable

> with many, and the spoons are so long, you can't feed yourself. But in

> heaven, with the same spoons, we feed one another.

>

> As the kundalini works its way in our life, if our ego is strong willed,

we

> move on to another stage. This is a tough one as the ego doesn't want to

> back down that easily without fighting. We eventually could.... it's a

> perfectly natural process.... become the Buddha himself, either through

> self-proclaimed recognition, and/or through others recognition of our

> enlightenment we tended to believe. This is not about our delusions of

being

> Buddha or Jesus Christ. It's thinking we're *there*.

>

> Now we know more than the majority, including the 'so-called' sages and

> guru's' -- we become a sage to everyone. It doesn't matter what their

belief

> or path is, or how far along they are, we know more than they do. This

can

> be a very tricky stage. Because we have received so much knowledge,

> revelations, experiences, and possibly even illumination, we want to play

> devil's advocate. We want to teach them -- the sages - to kill us. Kill

the

> Buddha. We think we are teaching them a thing or two. And why not? We

are

> the Sage of the All Sages!

>

> The ego tightens its grip as the sage explains why they are doing what

they

> do, to prove they are the Sage of the Sages that think they know it all.

> They actually think they are doing the world a favor by teaching the other

> sage to disembowel their Buddha. They do not recognize that the other

sage

> already knows this. They do not recognize that this is merely a stage in

the

> game, because they began to believe their own Buddhahood to be the One.

They

> forgot at some point... and maybe never learned... they are always the

> student too... in every case.

>

> With this stage of the 'unrecognizable to ourself kundalini high' of Being

> Buddha, Divine, All There Is, we begin to know that this is who we truly

are

> because we feel so divine, so blissful, so right. So comfortable, that it

> must be who we are. Many students may come. All are welcome. We discuss

> openly the miracles we've given and received, our profundity, our gifts,

our

> divineness, to attract more students, or to merely impress upon others how

> wonderful we truly are.

>

> This particular stage can be *catching* to the unaware student that comes

to

> us. We are so caught up in our own magnificence, we bring others with

us.

> They begin to believe as we do. If we've hopefully learned enough to let

> them fly when they are ready, they go out into the world, thinking this is

> the norm. This is who they are. They are enlightened. Now. Here. They

> are no more enlightened than their teacher. They are merely caught up in

> another's kundalini processing. The more empathic students feel it the

> worst, and it can be difficult for them. When the student begins to

believe

> it themself, the sage may, instead, cut them down, instead of letting them

> fly. It doesn't matter which. The student may go from teacher to

teacher,

> until they finally begin to listen to their own internal teacher, or find

a

> teacher that recognizes he is also a student always, and shows the steps

to

> truly listening to their internal teacher. This is always helpful to

both

> and cannot fail.

>

> If another person can cut through this armor the sage has built for

himself

> -- if the sage is truly open-minded -- he will move on to the next stage.

If

> not, he can stay in this stage for years and years. In this *high*

wonderful

> place. It is an out-of-control state. It can be manic, hyper,

charismatic

> to seekers and frustrating to those who have already been there.

Frustrating

> because of the armor we can't break. The sage can be equally frustrated

at

> the armor he cannot break in what he sees as 'so-called sages'.

>

> If the armor does get broken, we go on to the next stage. Killing our own

> Buddha. Becoming human again. Honoring ourselves. This can be a long

> process because of our own, or another's, brainwashing. It could be

> devastating, realizing we are not who we thought we were. Accepting our

> ordinariness can feel boring and 'just not right' as we get used to not

being

> extraordinary, unlimited, and divine. It is perfectly normal at this

stage

> to go back and forth for a while, until you come to accept yourself as a

> human, rather than divine.

>

> We begin turning our back on God -- that which we thought God was -- the

> high. It begins to filter into every area of our life, as we let go of

our

> Buddhahood and become human. We no longer wish others to kill us first.

We

> begin speaking our truth - not the Divine Truth, but our truth. We begin

> seeing where our heads are in the clouds in other areas of our life. We

> begin talking and sharing, as teachers and students alike, as we were

meant

> to, instead of only teaching. We begin honoring others, without

> persistence, knowing they know who they are. We begin truly talking like

a

> human being, instead of the divine being we thought we were.

>

> We accept what is, as is. As we see it. If it looks like a duck and

swims

> like a duck, it is a duck. We do not doubt ourselves, although others may

see

> it as so. We begin to embrace our own perception, regardless of how

screwed

> up it may be, instead of the light divine, and know that within us lies

the

> perfect knowing and that our fellow travelers will help us along. We will

> know who can help us and who can't. We begin knowing what is right for

us.

> We begin embracing if what we see, hear, or say, doesn't feel right to us,

it

> isn't right for us, and honor others the same right. We begin embracing

that

> which does feel right for us. We begin honoring ourselves and truly

honoring

> others for the first time in our lives. Not for who we want them to be,

but

> for who they are. We begin truly loving ourselves.

>

> We begin understanding that we thought we had one foot in heaven and one

foot

> on earth, but see now that only our heads were in the clouds, thinking it

was

> heaven. Both feet were here all along.

>

> We begin understanding we are bringing heaven and earth together, and

being

> neither, but being one. Us. Who we are. One. Not two. Not heaven.

Not

> earth. Not divine nor human. No labels nor resumes. Just me. Nothing

> more, nothing less.

>

> With this stage, we begin to understand the true meaning of the heart

center.

> Where we reside.

>

> And with this understanding, the tears will flow.

>

> Love,

> xxxtg

>

>

> /join

>

>

>

>

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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