Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Dear Friends, This is from "The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi," a Shambala publication, original copyright 1972 Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvanamalai, India, dedicated to W.Y. Evans-Wentz. Sadhana and Grace D. The final State of Realization is said to be according to Advaita the Absolute Union with the Divine and according to Visishtadvaita a qualified Union, while Dvaita maintains that there is no Union at all. Which of these should be considered the correct view? M. Why speculate as to what will happen some time in the future? All are agreed that the "I" exists. To whichever school of thought he may belong, let the earnest seeker first find out what the "I" is. Then it will be time enough to know what the final State will be, whether the "I" will get merged in the Supreme Being or stand apart from Him. Let us not forestall the conclusion, but keep an open mind. D. But will not some understanding of the final State be a helpful guide even to the aspirant? M. No purpose is served in trying to decide now what the final State of Realization will be. It has no intrinsic value. D. Why so? M. Because you proceed on wrong principle. Your ascertainment has to depend on the intellect which shines only by the light it derives from the Self. Is it not presumptuous on the part of the intellect to sit in judgement over that which it is but a limited manifestation, and from which it derives its little light? How can the intellect which can never reach the Self be competent to ascertain, and much less decide the nature of the final State of Realization? It is like trying to measure the sunlight at its source by the standard of the light given by a candle. The wax will melt down before the candle comes anywhere near the sun. Instead of indulging in mere speculation, devote yourself here and now to the search for the Truth that is ever within you. Love, Peace, Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 ....the truth within us is that it is emerging continuously into eternal time and infinite space.....we all follow the way of the sacred warrior that has as its goal the empty cave of the sacred heart of the beloved, even if we do not realize it.....love is arising and all manner of things are well.....this is mystery of the triune godhead that transcends duality.....for many of us living today it is the meeting place where advaita and christianity kiss for the first time....it is our task to bring a deeper and more penetrating revelation of the wisdom that has been handed down to us by our ancestors who but darkly understood the mysterious gift hidden within the gilded tabernacle of wisdom teachings...namaste......^^~~~~~ further up and further in, white wolfe - "mazie_l" <sraddha54 <> Friday, January 11, 2002 8:06 AM The Final State of Realization > Dear Friends, > > This is from "The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi," a Shambala > publication, original copyright 1972 Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvanamalai, > India, dedicated to W.Y. Evans-Wentz. > > Sadhana and Grace > > D. The final State of Realization is said to be according to Advaita > the Absolute Union with the Divine and according to Visishtadvaita a > qualified Union, while Dvaita maintains that there is no Union at > all. Which of these should be considered the correct view? > > M. Why speculate as to what will happen some time in the future? All > are agreed that the "I" exists. To whichever school of thought he may > belong, let the earnest seeker first find out what the "I" is. Then > it will be time enough to know what the final State will be, whether > the "I" will get merged in the Supreme Being or stand apart from Him. > Let us not forestall the conclusion, but keep an open mind. > > D. But will not some understanding of the final State be a helpful > guide even to the aspirant? > > M. No purpose is served in trying to decide now what the final State > of Realization will be. It has no intrinsic value. > > D. Why so? > > M. Because you proceed on wrong principle. Your ascertainment has to > depend on the intellect which shines only by the light it derives > from the Self. Is it not presumptuous on the part of the intellect to > sit in judgement over that which it is but a limited manifestation, > and from which it derives its little light? How can the intellect > which can never reach the Self be competent to ascertain, and much > less decide the nature of the final State of Realization? It is like > trying to measure the sunlight at its source by the standard of the > light given by a candle. The wax will melt down before the candle > comes anywhere near the sun. Instead of indulging in mere > speculation, devote yourself here and now to the search for the Truth > that is ever within you. > > > Love, Peace, > Mazie > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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